A Proud Christian "Gundamentalist"

Originally posted by Jigtie
Amen to that! Well said. 🙂

The Constitution guarantees me the right to keep and bear arms--it does not put a restriction on that, so no--I don't think a license nor a course in how to use a gun should be required. Since the right to drive or even own a car is NOT in the Constitution, the analogy doesn't fit.

Originally posted by Jigtie
The women's liberation movement just passed you by like a train, didn't it?
Are you happy being the subservient woman? Being a woman, I suppose
you're excused. But do you have any right telling other women what they
can and cannot do?

I do not tell the what they can and can not do, I leave that to God's Word to do that. I just try to highlight where the Bible teaches it.

And YES, I am happy being the subservient woman, for that is where the Lord wants me and I am glade to be in any postion the Lord puts me.

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
The Constitution guarantees me the right to keep and bear arms--it does not put a restriction on that, so no--I don't think a license nor a course in how to use a gun should be required. Since the right to drive or even own a car is NOT in the Constitution, the analogy doesn't fit.

Though I agree with you I would hope that people who are wanting a firearm would want to go through trainning to learn how to properly use it. If you have a firearm it does no good if you don't know how to use it and are not fimilar whith the way the gun works.
I for one have gone through trainning and I had a ball doing so. I try to go out and pratice as much as possible.

Originally posted by kmax87
Ultimately its about a reasonably safe work environment. We drive cars. In an accident its the driver of the car not the inanimate car itself that does the killing. But would society allow a lack of regulation in terms of the speed you could travel in that car through certain areas like schools for instance?

Would we accept that underage kids or unlicense ...[text shortened]... ct every citizen to be able to get a licence and be able to drive a car in a law abiding manner.

The question is, how far under the tent do we allow the camel to put it's nose. It's no secret that the far left would ban ownership of ALL guns....possibly allowing you to hunt with guns as long as you belong to a hunting club and keep your gun stored at the club. Driving a car is Not an inalianable right. With the right to own a gun comes responsibility. It's a tricky balancing act. I've been an NRA instructor for 25 yrs. and give FREE courses (along with other instructors) at local gun clubs.

GRANNY.

Originally posted by smw6869
The question is, how far under the tent do we allow the camel to put it's nose. It's no secret that the far left would ban ownership of ALL guns....possibly allowing you to hunt with guns as long as you belong to a hunting club and keep your gun stored at the club. Driving a car is Not an inalianable right. With the right to own a gun comes responsibility. ...[text shortened]... 25 yrs. and give FREE courses (along with other instructors) at local gun clubs.

GRANNY.

I have looked and have not found anywhere where there is a good shooting range around Southeast Missouri, namly Butler county. If you know of any or can find out I would surly appreciate it.

Thanks.

Originally posted by pritybetta
I have looked and have not found anywhere where there is a good shooting range around Southeast Missouri, namly Butler county. If you know of any or can find out I would surly appreciate it.

Thanks.

Call the NRA they have a list of all NRA sponsored clubs. Or talk to an FFL dealer in the area.

GRANNY.

Originally posted by smw6869
Call the NRA they have a list of all NRA sponsored clubs. Or talk to an FFL dealer in the area.

GRANNY.

I will try that. Thanks.

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
The Constitution guarantees me the right to keep and bear arms--it does not put a restriction on that, so no--I don't think a license nor a course in how to use a gun should be required. Since the right to drive or even own a car is NOT in the Constitution, the analogy doesn't fit.

Were there any cars around when the constitution was written? And does
the need for a licence really impede on the constitutional rights?

You still have the right to carry arms. The only requirement is that you're
trained on how to use the gun, to assess threatening situations so that
you don't use the gun unnecessarily and that you're above a certain age.

How is this a bad thing? Would you want just anybody to walk around
with a gun in their pocket? Even the emotionally unstable? And do you
really think that your gun will help you against someone set to kill you?
They will just shoot you in the back.

Other than the cool factor, I don't see any reason to carry a gun, but I'm
ok with people doing that as long as I can be reasonably assure they're
responsible about it.

Originally posted by pritybetta
I do not tell the what they can and can not do, I leave that to God's Word to do that. I just try to highlight where the Bible teaches it.

And YES, I am happy being the subservient woman, for that is where the Lord wants me and I am glade to be in any postion the Lord puts me.

And what basis do you have for believing the Lord wants you to be subservient?

Originally posted by pritybetta
I do think women can do God's work. I was only trying to point out that the Lord has set order for the churches/congregations and the home. If women want to teach the word of God to others they can if it is not in the setting of a congregation or having authority over her husband. Anything outside that can be debatable and I for one do not see anything wrong with it.

one of the best pastor's I ever had was a woman. She was truly called by God to pastoral leadership, the evidence was clear (by their fruits ye shall know them)

Originally posted by Jigtie
Were there any cars around when the constitution was written? And does
the need for a licence really impede on the constitutional rights?

You still have the right to carry arms. The only requirement is that you're
trained on how to use the gun, to assess threatening situations so that
you don't use the gun unnecessarily and that you're above a certai th people doing that as long as I can be reasonably assure they're
responsible about it.

does
the need for a licence really impede on the constitutional rights?

Yes--liberty, as well as justice, delayed is liberty denied.

And do you
really think that your gun will help you against someone set to kill you?

Absolutely. I can cite precedents.

They will just shoot you in the back.

[i]There is an old saying regarding shooting: "They can't hit what they can't see. And the few times I must be in public, my back is never a target.

I don't understand the cool factor comment, so I can't reply to it. The thing about emotionally unstable is valid--AFTER it is proven that the person is unstable (and that would mean having been arrested and convicted.) Being unstable alone is not enough reason to take away one's 2nd Amendment right (or any other right). If it was, we'd be living in a police state with "somebody" determining who is stable and who is not.

Originally posted by duecer
please read the book of Ruth

What is that?

Originally posted by Jigtie
Were there any cars around when the constitution was written? And does
the need for a licence really impede on the constitutional rights?

You still have the right to carry arms. The only requirement is that you're
trained on how to use the gun, to assess threatening situations so that
you don't use the gun unnecessarily and that you're above a certai ...[text shortened]... th people doing that as long as I can be reasonably assure they're
responsible about it.

A law abiding American citizen cannot purchase a gun without going through a Federal background check. Thugs, however, don't follow this law and purchase there guns on the black market.

I live in a state where it can take up to a year to obtain a licence. I guess the thug who said he was going to kill me tomorrow won't mind waiting that long. DUH!!!!! I'd say most people don't even want to own a gun, but want to be able to get one,legally, if needed, in a hurry.
GRANNY.

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
There is an old saying regarding shooting: "They can't hit what they can't see. And the few times I must be in public, my back is never a target.

That's an old saying? Honest?

Anyway, it's sad you should have to fear being in public. Just sitting at
home all day can't be much fun. 😕

Originally posted by smw6869
I'd say most people don't even want to own a gun, but want to be able to get one,legally, if needed, in a hurry.

Riiiight. So the thug won't wait a year for you to get your license, but
would wait for you to get a gun when you need it?

In a hurry, of course.

Sounds plausible enough. 🙄