@earl-of-trumps said
How do you know they are not reading people their rights, ATY? Seriously.
That would truly prove underhandedness, of course. I don't believe this
accusation until I can see someone substantiate that. Sorry.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2020/07/18/federal-law-enforcement-is-making-unconstitutional-arrests-in-portland/#358ef66c12a6
In this video*, one can clearly see that masked federal agents in camouflage gear, with no badges identifying who they work for, arrested a man without telling him what he was being charged with or reading him his Miranda rights. They put him in an unmarked van and drove away. They did have a patch that read “police” but there is no such thing as a federal police force. That means that no one knew who had arrested him.
*https://twitter.com/i/status/1283436911307218948
@AThousandYoung
Thanks for that.
I do see disturbing things there, just not the same things you see.
We have no idea at this point if these people were denied a phone call,
or if they in fact were not told why they were being charged, and with what.
I am not sure that police are legally bound to tell you when they arrest you
what you are being charged with. Not sure.
I'll certainly be interested to see what comes out of that.
@athousandyoung saidOh I doubt that's true. Most of the media are the propaganda arm of the Democratic party lying to protect Anti-fa, the militia of the Democratic party. I've seen the videos. Their uniform has POLICE clearly marked all over it, and other insignia as well. They are border patrol.
These feds are not identifying themselves nor are they reading people their rights.
@sleepyguy saidKing Donald already blew that rationale out of the water as I pointed out to Earl; do try to keep up.
If the local govt will not defend a federal property, why should the feds not defend it and make arrests for federal crimes?
@sleepyguy saidYou're not seriously comparing what is going on in Portland now to the 1992 LA riots?:
@no1marauder
The response to the LA riots involved the National Guard, 2,000 soldiers of the 7th Infantry Division and 1,500 Marines. Should they have stood down and let the murder and mayhem continue if the LA Mayor had objected to their presence?
"By the time the riots ended, 63 people had been killed,[6] 2,383 had been injured, more than 12,000 had been arrested, and estimates of property damage were over $1 billion"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots
Because that would be such ridiculous hyperbole and exaggeration that you would lose all credibility.
This is largely a pseudo-crisis maintained by King Donald in the hope it will help his dwindling re-election chances. You know it and I know it.
Here's a pic of the evil stormtrooping gestapo thugs with Chad Wolf. You can see the border patrol insignia.
https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2020/07/17/chad-wolf-meeting-1200x796.jpg
And here's the explanation of what happened in the video y'all are whining about:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/border-patrol-confirms-it-made-arrest-in-portland_3429053.html
Customs and Border Protection (CBP) confirmed it made an arrest in Portland captured on video, which was later widely circulated. Agents did have markings on their uniforms, despite claims otherwise.
CBP officers “had information indicating the person in the video was suspected of assaults against federal agents or destruction of federal property,” the agency said in a statement late Friday.
Once agents approached the suspect, “a large and violent mob” moved toward them.
“For everyone’s safety, CBP agents quickly moved the suspect to a safer location for further questioning,” the agency stated.
The officers in the video wore insignia, the agency noted. Mark Morgan, CBP’s acting commissioner, said that the personnel were “clearly marked” as federal law enforcement officers.
Because of recent doxing incidents, or people disclosing personal information like addresses, the names of agents were not displayed, he added in a statement. The same “violent criminals” who agents have arrested are doing the doxing, according to Morgan, putting the officers’ lives and families at risk.
Epoch Times Photo
@sleepyguy saidAre these rallies composed of people sneaking across the Canadian border? Doesn't the border patrol have some borders to patrol?
Here's a pic of the evil stormtrooping gestapo thugs with Chad Wolf. You can see the border patrol insignia.
https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2020/07/17/chad-wolf-meeting-1200x796.jpg
@sleepyguy saidDid the guys beating up on this Navy veteran for standing there have any insignia on? https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/federal-officers-hit-navy-veteran-with-baton-pepper-spray-and-tear-gassed-a-county-commissioner/283-54f9c138-40ec-410c-8077-7a17f686a6f6
Here's a pic of the evil stormtrooping gestapo thugs with Chad Wolf. You can see the border patrol insignia.
https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2020/07/17/chad-wolf-meeting-1200x796.jpg
And here's the explanation of what happened in the video y'all are whining about:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/border-patrol-confirms-it-made-arrest-in-portland_3429053.h ...[text shortened]... he doxing, according to Morgan, putting the officers’ lives and families at risk.
Epoch Times Photo
@no1marauder saidYeah I don't know about that. I think their jurisdiction extends to some certain distance from a border, and the Pacific ocean probably counts? I don't really care about the legal niceties. Anti-fa and BLM are at war with the United States and don't deserve a fair fight.
Are these rallies composed of people sneaking across the Canadian border? Doesn't the border patrol have some borders to patrol?
@sleepyguy saidThe name of this person charged and the details of his court appearance?
Here's a pic of the evil stormtrooping gestapo thugs with Chad Wolf. You can see the border patrol insignia.
https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2020/07/17/chad-wolf-meeting-1200x796.jpg
And here's the explanation of what happened in the video y'all are whining about:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/border-patrol-confirms-it-made-arrest-in-portland_3429053.h ...[text shortened]... he doxing, according to Morgan, putting the officers’ lives and families at risk.
Epoch Times Photo
@sleepyguy said"I don't really care about the legal niceties".
Yeah I don't know about that. I think their jurisdiction extends to a some certain distance from a border, and the Pacific ocean probably counts? I don't really care about the legal niceties. Anti-fa and BLM are at war with the United States and don't deserve a fair fight.
Like the Constitution and stuff.
Got it.
@no1marauder saidI assume so, and I hope the guy with the baton gets fired. He probably won't though because the guy he was beating up on was white, so...
Did the guys beating up on this Navy veteran for standing there have any insignia on? https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/federal-officers-hit-navy-veteran-with-baton-pepper-spray-and-tear-gassed-a-county-commissioner/283-54f9c138-40ec-410c-8077-7a17f686a6f6
@no1marauder saidYou don't care about civil society no1. You just love you some revolution, and you don't care who gets hurt.
"I don't really care about the legal niceties".
Like the Constitution and stuff.
Got it.
@sleepyguy saidIt seems almost all the people getting hurt in Portland are those being attacked by police and federal agents.
You don't care about civil society no1. You just love you some revolution, and you don't care who gets hurt.
There were over 2,000 more protesters last night; so this little plan of King Donald's isn't exactly restoring civil society to normal there. But that is clearly not his intent.
@no1marauder saidTell that to the business owners in downtown Portland. Tell it to the taxpayers and the injured cops. Like I said, you don't care about any of that.
It seems almost all the people getting hurt in Portland are those being attacked by police and federal agents.
https://www.kgw.com/article/money/business/portland-business-owners-call-on-city-leaders-to-stop-violence/283-432b8005-5fb4-4916-8fba-717f8c71e6f0