17 Jan 22
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@sh76 saidHe falsified his visa application and lied about his covid status by swapping / reversing the dates of his positive and negative test results according to the serial numbers.
The crazy thing is that reading between the lines, I really don't think Djokovic was deported because anyone reasonably believed he was a threat to spread COVID. Having just recovered a month ago, he's among the least likely of any of the players to spread it.
The interim orders that granted his request essentially acknowledged this.
He was deported because the government ...[text shortened]... r people for 2 years, they have every power to do that.
It does show extreme insecurity, though.
If he wasn’t a spoilt brat millionaire playboy tennis star he would’ve got no coverage at all, one thing he needs to learn about Aussies is their heads cannot be turned by celebrity and they are very serious about border controls.
17 Jan 22
@kevcvs57 said===He falsified his visa application and lied about his covid status by swapping / reversing the dates of his positive and negative test results according to the serial numbers.===
He falsified his visa application and lied about his covid status by swapping / reversing the dates of his positive and negative test results according to the serial numbers.
If he wasn’t a spoilt brat millionaire playboy tennis star he would’ve got no coverage at all, one thing he needs to learn about Aussies is their heads cannot be turned by celebrity and they are very serious about border controls.
That all may be true, but the public statements of the officials have not harped on that as the reason he was expelled. He was expelled because he contradicted the political position of the Australian government.
17 Jan 22
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@sh76 saidAll I can say is good riddance! While Tennis Australia( in cahoots with the Victorian State gov) should have heads roll for not heeding the federal govt advice that they received before granting Djokovic an exemption, that prior exposure to the virus would no longer constitute eligibility for an exemption, it seems elements within TA and the Djokovic camp were all too willing to go down a path to force the federal government's hand and strike a blow for personal freedom. What Djokovic failed to realise is that with the country at more than 2/3rds double vaccinated and its most populous state NSW at 95% doubly vaccinated, the egalitarian nature of the country was not going to sit back quietly and let some famous elite athlete ( and known anti vaxxer) gain entry when others including Australians themselves have to follow the vaccine mandate to gain entry.
===He falsified his visa application and lied about his covid status by swapping / reversing the dates of his positive and negative test results according to the serial numbers.===
That all may be true, but the public statements of the officials have not harped on that as the reason he was expelled. He was expelled because he contradicted the political position of the Australian government.
And the politicians because they pay people to gauge the pulse of the people, knew that, and acted accordingly, eventually.
17 Jan 22
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@kmax87 saidSo, let me ask you: As a fully vaccinated (presumably) Australian in a place where Omicron is spreading essentially out of control in any case, do you think that you have anything to fear from unvaccinated entrants to your country who have recovered from COVID in the past few weeks.
All I can say is good riddance! While Tennis Australia( in cahoots with the Victorian State gov) should have heads roll for not heeding the federal govt advice that they received before granting Djokovic an exemption, that prior exposure to the virus would no longer constitute eligibility for an exemption, it seems elements within TA and the Djokovic camp were all too willing ...[text shortened]... ause they pay people to gauge the pulse of the people, knew that, and acted accordingly, eventually.
17 Jan 22
@sh76 saidYou're behind the times; Australia's number of cases has fallen in half in the last week: "Nearly 74,000 cases were reported on Monday, the country's lowest tally in a week. National daily numbers had touched a record 150,000 last Thursday but have been steadily falling since then."
So, let me ask you: As a fully vaccinated (presumably) Australian in a place where Omicron is spreading essentially out of control in any case, do you think that you have anything to fear from unvaccinated entrants to your country who have recovered from COVID in the past few weeks.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/shortage-covid-19-testing-kits-not-unique-australia-pm-says-2022-01-17/
Australia with a population of 25 million " has reported around 1.6 million infections and 2,699 deaths since the pandemic began."
Florida, who's Governor you have ceaselessly praised for his cavalier attitude toward the disease, and which has a smaller population than Australia has had 63,090 COVID deaths. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/
Maybe you should refrain from criticism of the Aussie's approach.
17 Jan 22
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@kmax87 saidA few points:
All I can say is good riddance! While Tennis Australia( in cahoots with the Victorian State gov) should have heads roll for not heeding the federal govt advice that they received before granting Djokovic an exemption, that prior exposure to the virus would no longer constitute eligibility for an exemption, it seems elements within TA and the Djokovic camp were all too willing ...[text shortened]... ause they pay people to gauge the pulse of the people, knew that, and acted accordingly, eventually.
He was deported for thought crimes, you need to recognise that. He did not incite anything or anyone, he was deported for his potential to promote dissent. Not something he did.
He travels with an entourage, a manager, likely a secretary, someone to handle PR, he lives under a spot light to think that on a whim he might tick the wrong box or whatever and maybe no-one will notice? You need to start questioning what you're being fed and what you're using to filter it.
Tested out the wazoo, every aspect of his health constantly monitored. Are the tests no good, are the tests unreliable, they're using test results to stomp on Australians rights. What is being protected here Djokovic is more likely to catch the flu from visiting Australia than he is to bring it in.
A dark day in Australian history.
17 Jan 22
@no1marauder saidas biden says…it depends on who is doing the counting
You're behind the times; Australia's number of cases has fallen in half in the last week: "Nearly 74,000 cases were reported on Monday, the country's lowest tally in a week. National daily numbers had touched a record 150,000 last Thursday but have been steadily falling since then."
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/shortage-covid-19-testing-kits-not-unique-au ...[text shortened]... s.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/
Maybe you should refrain from criticism of the Aussie's approach.
17 Jan 22
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It doesn't surprise me in the least you would take that stance. You HATE governments. Well when there is no more democrat party, you will dance in the streets not understanding just how dangerous that would be.
You clearly don't give a crap if it is taken as a sign of weakness by foreigners and they start new wars because of it.
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18 Jan 22
@sh76 saidThe public perceived, perhaps rightly so,
The crazy thing is that reading between the lines, I really don't think Djokovic was deported because anyone reasonably believed he was a threat to spread COVID. Having just recovered a month ago, he's among the least likely of any of the players to spread it.
The interim orders that granted his request essentially acknowledged this.
He was deported because the government ...[text shortened]... r people for 2 years, they have every power to do that.
It does show extreme insecurity, though.
that the athlete was receiving special treatment.
18 Jan 22
@sh76 saidGuess what caused the surge in cases?:
So, let me ask you: As a fully vaccinated (presumably) Australian in a place where Omicron is spreading essentially out of control in any case, do you think that you have anything to fear from unvaccinated entrants to your country who have recovered from COVID in the past few weeks.
"Infection rates have soared across much of Australian since December when Morrison’s government relaxed what had been some of the democratic world’s toughest restrictions on international travel."
https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-novak-djokovic-sports-health-australia-2ca1c31f867c05a49e66a8b8f8849477
Maybe it wasn't the best time for a big shot athlete to try to enter the country on a bogus medical exemption.
18 Jan 22
@divegeester saidTake a look for yourself:
Some observers muse that Australia is gravitating towards fascism.
18 Jan 22
@sh76 saidI'll respond by asking you a question. Would you be okay with 7 time F1 champion Lewis Hamilton be given a speed exemption everywhere he travelled across the US of A. He obviously has the skills and reaction times necessary to travel at twice the posted limit wherever he drives. You would find that acceptable? How about all the would be Cannon Ballers who also believe they have the prerequisites, should they also be given exemptions?
So, let me ask you: As a fully vaccinated (presumably) Australian in a place where Omicron is spreading essentially out of control in any case, do you think that you have anything to fear from unvaccinated entrants to your country who have recovered from COVID in the past few weeks.
18 Jan 22
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@divegeester saidI suppose fascism comes with free health, workers rights, great public education and a welfare safety net, where the rights of all, in a multicultural Australia, are enshrined in laws that make it illegal to discriminate on the basis of race, color, religion, gender, ethnicity and sexual orientation, where also women are empowered to exercise full rights over their bodies to choose whether they bring any new life into this world.
Some observers muse that Australia is gravitating towards fascism.
Some fascism....
18 Jan 22
@sh76 saidNo he tried to breech the border security vaccine mandate that applies to every foreign national entering Australia. And this the no1 seed at a grand slam tournament noted for his vax hesitancy. Who knows who he might entertain while he is here, get reinfected and become a super mega spreader. The press would love that...
===He falsified his visa application and lied about his covid status by swapping / reversing the dates of his positive and negative test results according to the serial numbers.===
That all may be true, but the public statements of the officials have not harped on that as the reason he was expelled. He was expelled because he contradicted the political position of the Australian government.