@no1marauder
You keep treating racial groups as monolithic.
There are plenty of white people with the advantage of family connections and such. There are plenty of white trash that have no advantage at all. Any discussion of racial groups is flawed when each life is different.
Racists like to believe that everyone of each race is treated exactly the same. You know, like the racists who say that only people of a certain race can apply for a job.
@eladar saidYou keep ignoring the overwhelming evidence that blacks are disadvantaged in this society compared to whites.
@no1marauder
You keep treating racial groups as monolithic.
There are plenty of white people with the advantage of family connections and such. There are plenty of white trash that have no advantage at all. Any discussion of racial groups is flawed when each life is different.
Racists like to believe that everyone of each race is treated exactly the same. You know, like the racists who say that only people of a certain race can apply for a job.
Again, you and the other right wingers either ignorantly or more likely deliberately keep misusing the word "racist". It refers to those who believe one or more "races" are inherently superior to other "races". Remedial measures to combat discrimination have nothing to do with any belief that a "race" is superior as you should well know by now.
Does anybody in their right mind believe that the BBC wants a POC for this relatively menial job because they believe POC are "superior" to whites?
21 Jun 21
@no1marauder saidYou ignore the fact that a person's outcome has much to do with personal choices.
You keep ignoring the overwhelming evidence that blacks are disadvantaged in this society compared to whites.
Again, you and the other right wingers either ignorantly or more likely deliberately keep misusing the word "racist". It refers to those who believe one or more "races" are inherently superior to other "races". Remedial measures to combat discrimination have nothing to do with any belief that a "race" is superior as you should well know by now.
Of course your life experience does not allow you to see the truth of what I am saying. You and yours did come from a life of advantage. It is not true for all white people.
We are not all like you.
21 Jun 21
@eladar saidOne's "life choices" can be severely constrained because of systemic racism if you are a POC in the US.
You ignore the fact that a person's outcome has much to do with personal choices.
Of course your life experience does not allow you to see the truth of what I am saying. You and yours did come from a life of advantage. It is not true for all white people.
We are not all like you.
I'm going to ignore your uninformed speculation about my life which is really NOYFB.
21 Jun 21
@no1marauder saidYes, they can be.
One's "life choices" can be severely constrained because of systemic racism if you are a POC in the US.
I'm going to ignore your uninformed speculation about my life which is really NOYFB.
Your life choices based on your personal white advantages, which I did not recieve, color your point of view. In the same way, my life experience colors my point of view. It is only natural to believe all white people had your advantages of connection and wealth.
21 Jun 21
@eladar saidHere's where I grew up: https://earth.google.com/web/search/187+sherman+street+albany+ny/@42.66208544,-73.76829777,69.80049064a,200d,35y,185.91810883h,60t,0r/[WORD TOO LONG]
Yes, they can be.
Your life choices based on your personal white advantages, which I did not recieve, color your point of view. In the same way, my life experience colors my point of view. It is only natural to believe all white people had your advantages of connection and wealth.
You can see all the stately manors surrounding 187 Sherman St. (which is now a vacant lot).
21 Jun 21
@no1marauder saidYour financial success in life obviously had nothing to do with your decisions. Obviously your success is due to your white priviledge. It may have been for all white people where you live, I do not know. I was not part of your white experience.
Here's where I grew up: https://earth.google.com/web/search/187+sherman+street+albany+ny/@42.66208544,-73.76829777,69.80049064a,200d,35y,185.91810883h,60t,0r/[WORD TOO LONG]
You can see all the stately manors surrounding 187 Sherman St. (which is now a vacant lot).
@eladar saidWhatever happened to my advantages of "connection and wealth"?
Your financial success in life obviously had nothing to do with your decisions. Obviously your success is due to your white priviledge. It may have been for all white people where you live, I do not know. I was not part of your white experience.
I don't like the term "white privilege" as it implies being free from invidious discrimination is a "privilege" rather than a right. I did not have to face roadblocks because of my "race", however, which is certainly an advantage in the US.
21 Jun 21
@no1marauder - said
Does anybody in their right mind believe that the BBC wants a POC for this relatively menial job because they believe POC are "superior" to whites?
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None of which is the point.
The BBC, Mayor Lightfoot of Chicago, and other noted liberals are TEACHING racism and discrimination
as simply being a matter of course. *That* is the point.
This sucks. What will the kids think? And the democrats cheer.
@earl-of-trumps saidWhat "racism"?
@no1marauder - said
Does anybody in their right mind believe that the BBC wants a POC for this relatively menial job because they believe POC are "superior" to whites?
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None of which is the point.
The BBC, Mayor Lightfoot of Chicago, and other noted liberals are TEACHING racism and discrimination
as simply being a matter of course. *That* is the point.
This sucks. What will the kids think? And the democrats cheer.
Of course, "it's the point" when you accuse someone of acting "racist" to show that they aren't by the standard definition of the word.
@no1marauder saidObviously you believe there is no excuse for a white person to be poor, yet there are twice as many poor white people as black.
Whatever happened to my advantages of "connection and wealth"?
I don't like the term "white privilege" as it implies being free from invidious discrimination is a "privilege" rather than a right. I did not have to face roadblocks because of my "race", however, which is certainly an advantage in the US.
If all white people have the advantage and all black people are being kept down, the reality we see today would be impossible.
22 Jun 21
@eladar saidThat's not even a Strawman Argument, it's a total red herring.
Obviously you believe there is no excuse for a white person to be poor, yet there are twice as many poor white people as black.
If all white people have the advantage and all black people are being kept down, the reality we see today would be impossible.
The "reality we see today" reflects a country with a lot of systemic racism as shown by many economic and social statistics. Naturally, it doesn't function in an all-encompassing manner.
22 Jun 21
@no1marauder saidToday there is no systemic racism, unless you mean anti-white racism. Perhaps you had a point in the 1960's but not today.
That's not even a Strawman Argument, it's a total red herring.
The "reality we see today" reflects a country with a lot of systemic racism as shown by many economic and social statistics. Naturally, it doesn't function in an all-encompassing manner.
22 Jun 21
@eladar said"Since 1989, whites receive on average 36% more callbacks than African Americans, and 24% more callbacks than Latinos. We observe no change in the level of hiring discrimination against African Americans over the past 25 years, although we find modest evidence of a decline in discrimination against Latinos. Accounting for applicant education, applicant gender, study method, occupational groups, and local labor market conditions does little to alter this result. Contrary to claims of declining discrimination in American society, our estimates suggest that levels of discrimination remain largely unchanged, at least at the point of hire."
Today there is no systemic racism, unless you mean anti-white racism. Perhaps you had a point in the 1960's but not today.
https://www.pnas.org/content/114/41/10870