04 Jul 23
@wildgrass saidJudiciary? These immediate questions are about what we think about the distinctions that were not made about giving money to college students instead of poor people.
The whole point is that the judiciary shouldn't decide whether and how windfalls for various beneficiaries are distributed Joe, unless law was applied wrong. I think that point is clear. Judges using no statute or law at all to decide about redistribution of wealth away from people and back to government. Gross
"That is a major problem not just for governance, but for d ...[text shortened]... versies, and to stay away from making this Nation’s policy about subjects like student-loan relief.”
As I said, above, it is not about Trump , judiciary laws, creditors, debtors, rollerskates, Trump, Congress, Sonhouse, Hillary, ducks on the pond, or anything else.
Geez
@averagejoe1 saidMaybe you should read the thread title. It is:
Judiciary? These immediate questions are about what we think about the distinctions that were not made about giving money to college students instead of poor people.
As I said, above, it is not about Trump , judiciary laws, creditors, debtors, rollerskates, Trump, Congress, Sonhouse, Hillary, ducks on the pond, or anything else.
Geez
"Biden v. Nebraska dissenting opinion in loan forgiveness"
So the discussion is about the SCOTUS case, not another rehashing of your endless complaints about the policy, which were thoroughly covered in the thread last year.
04 Jul 23
@no1marauder saidI quite disagree . It is about the dissent, where no mention is made, in the dissent, about the nature of having chosen the college students in the first place to give relief to, so we are complaining about these dissenters who do not tell or consider the whole story. So I and others are trying to tell the whole story about the unfairness of it all, as you liberals, love the word fair, so I can clearly point out as I have that to relieve the college students, and not a poor fella who lost his business due to Covid, is not fair.
Maybe you should read the thread title. It is:
"Biden v. Nebraska dissenting opinion in loan forgiveness"
So the discussion is about the SCOTUS case, not another rehashing of your endless complaints about the policy, which were thoroughly covered in the thread last year.
So, we are indeed discussing the name of this thread.… The dissent.
04 Jul 23
@averagejoe1 saidmarerider is on the losing end of this argument and is looking to shut you down any way possible
I quite disagree . It is about the dissent, where no mention is made, in the dissent, about the nature of having chosen the college students in the first place to give relief to, so we are complaining about these dissenters who do not tell or consider the whole story. So I and others are trying to tell the whole story about the unfairness of it all, as you liberals, love ...[text shortened]... due to Covid, is not fair.
So, we are indeed discussing the name of this thread.… The dissent.
04 Jul 23
@averagejoe1 saidThe dissent is based on law, not complaints about policy - which is what you keep harping about. Thus just about every post you have made here is an off-topic attempt to rehash the wisdom of the policy; a subject which has already been covered in multiple threads include the 453 post one I already linked to.
I quite disagree . It is about the dissent, where no mention is made, in the dissent, about the nature of having chosen the college students in the first place to give relief to, so we are complaining about these dissenters who do not tell or consider the whole story. So I and others are trying to tell the whole story about the unfairness of it all, as you liberals, love ...[text shortened]... due to Covid, is not fair.
So, we are indeed discussing the name of this thread.… The dissent.
04 Jul 23
@mott-the-hoople saidIt's funny how you morons think you're in the majority about everything.
marerider is on the losing end of this argument and is looking to shut you down any way possible
04 Jul 23
@no1marauder saidWe know you are all about the law, I could be, but that is not what the Forum wants......this is not law school. The Forum is a place for one person to see what makes another person tick. It is that simple. I might ask Shav or Zhalanzi, are you truly comfortable with the socialistic trappings of your societies. I want to know if they feel independent, self reliant, such as that,,,,,which are traits ingrained into American citizens.
The dissent is based on law, not complaints about policy - which is what you keep harping about. Thus just about every post you have made here is an off-topic attempt to rehash the wisdom of the policy; a subject which has already been covered in multiple threads include the 453 post one I already linked to.
I await their answer, and you jump in with links and law, maybe a bit of history. No need for an analogy, you know what I am saying.
So I ask a so-simple question, why would the government propose assistance to college graduates, when Non-college graduates, managing a simple potted plant business affected by Covid, will pay (though taxes) the money to forgive the loans of the parasitic college graduates?
There has to be an answer. And Marauder, you want to write about the courts and extraneous laws or statutes that you can willy nilly apply to push this idea through? law law law. I did not ask a question about law.
I think I will go ask my granny what she thinks about this abominable idea. She will tell me what SHE thinks. YOU will not, you depend on the laaaaaaaawww. Are you a dependent person? Man up.
04 Jul 23
@averagejoe1 saidYour policy objections were exhaustively dealt with in the thread last year including your false claim that other taxpayers are paying to forgive student loans. Why should anyone waste further time on them in a thread specifically devoted to the legal issues surrounding the SCOTUS ruling?
We know you are all about the law, I could be, but that is not what the Forum wants......this is not law school. The Forum is a place for one person to see what makes another person tick. It is that simple. I might ask Shav or Zhalanzi, are you truly comfortable with the socialistic trappings of your societies. I want to know if they feel independent, self reliant, suc ...[text shortened]... at SHE thinks. YOU will not, you depend on the laaaaaaaawww. Are you a dependent person? Man up.
04 Jul 23
@no1marauder saidYou and I bump into each other at a bus station. Hey, Marauder, did you see where it was decided, I don't know by whom, that the US government has contacted all college graduates with loans to pay and told them that they do not have to pay the loans. Yeah, sure 'nuff.
Your policy objections were exhaustively dealt with in the thread last year including your false claim that other taxpayers are paying to forgive student loans. Why should anyone waste further time on them in a thread specifically devoted to the legal issues surrounding the SCOTUS ruling?
Does it make you think immediately about their fellow citizens, with debt, not having received such phone call?
I have heard it has to do wth the college kids begin affected by Covid, ...but, Marauder, all of the citizens were affected. Like, my son the plumber who has lost business.
I am thjnking about calling my Senator and askiing him to rectify this travesty.
What do you think you could do to make things right? I assume that you do not think this is right? Do you?
04 Jul 23
@no1marauder saidWhy do I get the feelling that Maruader, every time he goes to a cocktail party, or goes 'clubbing', tells everyone 'I'm a lawyer'.?
Your policy objections were exhaustively dealt with in the thread last year including your false claim that other taxpayers are paying to forgive student loans. Why should anyone waste further time on them in a thread specifically devoted to the legal issues surrounding the SCOTUS ruling?
04 Jul 23
@averagejoe1 saidNot as often as you have to claim that you're a "business owner".
Why do I get the feelling that Maruader, every time he goes to a cocktail party, or goes 'clubbing', tells everyone 'I'm a lawyer'.?
04 Jul 23
@vivify saidAs long as issues are credible issues worthy of discussion, I ask you this....What difference does it make who or what someone is? If I write a great issue about donut shops, what does my (personal) connection with donut shops, or lack thereof, have to do with the issue?
Not as often as you have to claim that you're a "business owner".
Y'all don't debate much, apparently. If I were not of the business world, but rather a shepherd, would that have any bearing on any issue?
Oh, Vivify.......
@averagejoe1 saidAs I explained in the other thread last year:
You and I bump into each other at a bus station. Hey, Marauder, did you see where it was decided, I don't know by whom, that the US government has contacted all college graduates with loans to pay and told them that they do not have to pay the loans. Yeah, sure 'nuff.
Does it make you think immediately about their fellow citizens, with debt, not having received such ...[text shortened]... u think you could do to make things right? I assume that you do not think this is right? Do you?
no1: We are a democratic republic; the government is elected by the People and stands as their proxy. The People elected Joe Biden knowing he promised to forgive a portion of student loan debts. By their votes, they consented to it.
So I guess you'd have to ask your Senator to make this government a dictatorship of right wing ideologues rather than a democratic republic. Or you could simply have a majority of the SCOTUS ignore the clear words of a statute AND their own rules regarding standing.