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AverageJoe1
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@mott-the-hoople said
not a single US citizen can escape this, unless you are in the top 1 percent that is.

EVERYTING is going to cost more and more. People already have less money in their pocket because of these policies. The shutting down of OUR pipeline while allowing Russia to complete theirs is just plain kick back policy. Biden is selling our country.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/05/26/why-democrats-inflation-is-a-major-tax-hike-on-the-poor/
Why would you get 4 negative check marks for saying this? What you say is fact, ....I am thinking it is a freudian way of knowing-but-denying at the same time????
Libs are an entertaining lot, wrong, but like little groups of goldfish wandering around in an unknown fish bowl.
Accentuate on the word 'groups'.

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@suzianne said
So why do you support the corporate leeches? Because they're rich? Because they make their billions off the backs of drones like you?

Does that even make sense? No, it doesn't.

I bet you're not even in a union, thus shooting yourself in the foot again.

Here's a not-so-secret secret: Corporations aren't your friends.
I mean to answer as respectfully as I possibly can.

That is a very broad paintbrush! The corporation I work for provides health care at a much lower cost than I could get on my own. A 401k with a solid match. A completely separate pension fund. 250 jobs in a small town helping families enjoy owning homes and vehicles in a good school district. That is 250 taxpayers from which the state and federal governments can depend on to draw from.

You are correct, I’m not in a union. I’m a salaried employee. But we’ve never been closed due to a strike. I’ve never in all my life been unemployed, and this is the third major employer in my lifetime. My first major employer had over 10 thousand taxpayers employed with similar benefits. I’m nearing the end of my career, and, barring a downturn in health, set to retire comfortably and peaceably with my wife of 38 years.

Yes, at the tip top of such corporations are those very highly paid few. But every time tax rates go up, a lot of layoffs occur, services shut down. Each of those layoffs is a lost taxpayer. Each of those lost taxpayers rise the tax burdens of those still working.

There is no utopia. You want it? Bust your tail and go get it.

Suzianne—can you simply not discuss things peaceably?

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@liljo said
I mean to answer as respectfully as I possibly can.

That is a very broad paintbrush! The corporation I work for provides health care at a much lower cost than I could get on my own. A 401k with a solid match. A completely separate pension fund. 250 jobs in a small town helping families enjoy owning homes and vehicles in a good school district. That is 250 taxpayers from whi ...[text shortened]... You want it? Bust your tail and go get it.

Suzianne—can you simply not discuss things peaceably?
Probably the best-written post I've seen, it abounds with logic, common sense and rationale, and, it is indisputable.
I can't add one thought to it. I think I will re-read it.

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@averagejoe1 said
Probably the best-written post I've seen, it abounds with logic, common sense and rationale, and, it is indisputable.
I can't add one thought to it. I think I will re-read it.
Thanks, Joe. I got a feeling you are well above "average" my friend.
😉

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@liljo said
I mean to answer as respectfully as I possibly can.

That is a very broad paintbrush! The corporation I work for provides health care at a much lower cost than I could get on my own. A 401k with a solid match. A completely separate pension fund. 250 jobs in a small town helping families enjoy owning homes and vehicles in a good school district. That is 250 taxpayers from whi ...[text shortened]... You want it? Bust your tail and go get it.

Suzianne—can you simply not discuss things peaceably?
sluzanne cant seem to understand why all these rich people...gates,bezos,musk,ceos of all these large corporations support the democrats. HINT...the democrats are lying to you.

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@mott-the-hoople said
sluzanne cant seem to understand why all these rich people...gates,bezos,musk,ceos of all these large corporations support the democrats. HINT...the democrats are lying to you.
And yet you still think Trump never lied.

That's some special derangement right there.

How's that snake oil?

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@mott-the-hoople said
not a single US citizen can escape this, unless you are in the top 1 percent that is.

EVERYTING is going to cost more and more. People already have less money in their pocket because of these policies. The shutting down of OUR pipeline while allowing Russia to complete theirs is just plain kick back policy. Biden is selling our country.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/05/26/why-democrats-inflation-is-a-major-tax-hike-on-the-poor/
A pretty hysterical reaction to one month's worth of data. As the article notes before flying off into hyperbole, the Fed regards April's CPI numbers as an anomaly as do most economists though slightly higher than the 2% benchmark can reasonably be expected in the short term given the economy snapping back from a deep recession.

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@no1marauder said
A pretty hysterical reaction to one month's worth of data. As the article notes before flying off into hyperbole, the Fed regards April's CPI numbers as an anomaly as do most economists though slightly higher than the 2% benchmark can reasonably be expected in the short term given the economy snapping back from a deep recession.
one month my ass...you fools support this bought and off idiot.

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/552890-growing-inflation-is-bidens-hidden-tax-on-working-americans

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@mott-the-hoople said
one month my ass...you fools support this bought and off idiot.

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/552890-growing-inflation-is-bidens-hidden-tax-on-working-americans
"Prices for all items less food and energy rose 3.0 percent over the last 12 months, "

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2021/consumer-price-index-up-4-2-percent-from-april-2020-to-april-2021.htm

That's hardly anything to get alarmed about; the Fed conservatively targets a 2% increase in normal economic times. Naturally there are added pressures coming out of the 2020 recession.

Gas prices plummeted during that recession, but the levels now are hardly different than they were around Memorial Day in 2018 and 2019. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epmr_pte_nus_dpg&f=m

In short, this is ideologically inspired hyperbole with little chance of actually occurring in the near future.

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@no1marauder said
"Prices for all items less food and energy rose 3.0 percent over the last 12 months, "

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2021/consumer-price-index-up-4-2-percent-from-april-2020-to-april-2021.htm

That's hardly anything to get alarmed about; the Fed conservatively targets a 2% increase in normal economic times. Naturally there are added pressures coming out of the 2020 re ...[text shortened]... his is ideologically inspired hyperbole with little chance of actually occurring in the near future.
2020 recession? LOL...you idiot.

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what does that have to do with china releasing a deadly virus and forced labor?

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@mott-the-hoople said
2020 recession? LOL...you idiot.
You weren't aware there was a worldwide recession last year? Here's some US figures:

"Real GDP decreased 3.5 percent in 2020 (from the 2019 annual level to the 2020 annual level)" https://www.bea.gov/news/2021/gross-domestic-product-4th-quarter-and-year-2020-advance-estimate#:~:text=Current%2Ddollar%20GDP%20decreased%202.3,(tables%201%20and%203).

In April 2020, the unemployment rate reached 14.8%—the highest rate observed since data collection began in 1948. In April 2021, unemployment remained higher (6.1% ) than it had been in February 2020 (3.5% ).

The labor force participation rate declined to 60.2% in April 2020—a level not seen since the early 1970s—then began a partial recovery in May 2020. The labor force participation rate was
61.7% in April 2021, 1.7 percentage points below the level in January 2020, before the pandemic and the economic recession.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R46554.pdf

Finally, the National Bureau of Economic Research called the economic situation a "recession" as early as June 2020 even though 2nd quarter data had not come in yet. When it did, GDP fell over 31% which with the more than 5% fall in the first quarter 2020 easily met the standard definition for a recession of "a GDP decline in back-to-back quarters,". https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/09/us-officially-in-a-recession-but-its-different-than-2008.html

So yes Mott, maybe Fox or Breitbart or Newsmax didn't mention it, but the US fell into recession in 2020.

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.......and make it their mission to change America to socialism. Yeah, they do alot of things. Why don’t we list them?

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So yes Mott, maybe Fox or Breitbart or Newsmax didn't mention it, but the US fell into recession in 2020.
THEN you should write “ but to be honest, none of the lib networks seem to mention one thing about the lack of patriotism in the tweets that were sent out by the president and the vice president for Memorial Day.”Seems like you should mention that as well

They are catching grief about it, Watch how they try to seem patriotic on Monday, To clean up their act, when we all know that they have no patriotism in their blood. Pitful couple.

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