@sonhouse saidJust to take the fat off, and to set total hatred aside for a moment, why are so many people in favor of Trump as President and happy with the job he is doing? What do they see that you don't? I'm serious, how can you differ with everything he has done? He has fulfilled all promises, even the wall in the end, a great president. I do think he has bad breath, but I am still for success and prosperity. Why aren't you? No emotion please, I am begging here. It is hard to read and comprehend at the same time!
@AverageJoe1
I'll pass. You trust a CRIMINAL and that will be proven the day his sorry ass gets kicked out of office and his SCOTUS buddies can't protect him.
STRONG? ARE YOU FRIKING KIDDING? He is as weak as they come otherwise he would have been all over Putin for both the interference ONGOING as we speak as well as in 2015 and 16. That is a FACT JACK.
You may want ...[text shortened]... ink that is just fine, we NEED a dictator right now to stop all those crazy empathic democrats......
19 Aug 20
@averagejoe1 saidA landlord produces "living space" !!!
I dunno....Living space?? How about Short-term value to a renter who might not be able to buy a house. He is producing value, maybe?
That's like saying AVIS make cars.
19 Aug 20
@wolfgang59 saidThe anslogy of all time. You are right Wolf, just like u r right about Biden. What a stupid I am.
A landlord produces "living space" !!!
That's like saying AVIS make cars.
@athousandyoung saidOh please prior to 50 years ago there were hardly any mexicans anywhere in America except near the border.
I don't know what cities you're talking about but out here Mexicans built the cities.
They certainly didn't build all our cities.
I grew up in Los Angeles in the 1950's and hardly ever saw a mexican anywhere unless we went to Tijuana.
@dood111 saidLos Angeles was founded as a Mexican city (actually, Spanish, but using Mexican labor) you fool it predates the Mexican American War.
Oh please prior to 50 years ago there were hardly any mexicans anywhere in America except near the border.
They certainly didn't build all our cities.
I grew up in Los Angeles in the 1950's and hardly ever saw a mexican anywhere unless we went to Tijuana.
http://www.militarymuseum.org/SanPasqual.html
When the Californians observed the appearance of Kearny's men, and how they were mounted, they remarked to each other, " Aqui vamos hacer matanza ." ("Here we are going to have a slaughter." ) They were mounted on fresh horses, and were armed with sharp-pointed lances and with pistols, in the use of which weapons they were very expert. A furious charge was made upon Kearny's force, whereupon all the mules ran away as fast as their legs would convey them, pursued by the Californians, who used their lances with great effect, killing about twenty-five of Kearny's men and wounding a large number (including General Kearny) of the remainder (nearly all of them in the back), who were all in the predicament of being unable to control the half-starved mules which they rode at the time of the stampede.
@athousandyoung saidThousand.........are you aware that Democrats have become socialist, the precursor to Marxism, meaning that 70 some days from now this country could be engulfed with that. And you are writing about what Mexicans built?
Los Angeles was founded as a Mexican city (actually, Spanish, but using Mexican labor) you fool it predates the Mexican American War.
http://www.militarymuseum.org/SanPasqual.html
When the Californians observed the appearance of Kearny's men, and how they were mounted, they remarked to each other, " Aqui vamos hacer matanza ." ("Here we are going to have a ...[text shortened]... being unable to control the half-starved mules which they rode at the time of the stampede.
Anyway, this thread is about over, I think Wolfgang won it hands-down! Why don’t you start a thread about socialism and Marxism to get us all loosened up about it
@athousandyoung said
Los Angeles was founded as a Mexican city (actually, Spanish, but using Mexican labor) you fool it predates the Mexican American War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mexican_Americans_in_Los_Angeles
The city has witnessed a development of a Hispanic (mainly Mexican) cultural presence since its settlement as a city in 1769. Mexican-Americans have been one of the largest ethnic groups in Los Angeles since the 1910 census, as Mexican immigrants and US-born Mexicans from the Southwest states came to the booming industrial economy of the LA area between 1915 and 1960. This migration peaked in the 1920s and again in the World War II era (1941–45).
@wolfgang59 saidYou're losing credence, Wolf. You say above '...like Avis makes cars'. Wolf, does a cook make eggs? Your logic then, is that a cook does not produce? How about a kindergarten teacher. Does she produce? Why dont you start another thread, so that this one can be forgotten. Looks like I won another.
Yes, far too many people are not earning enough.
20 Aug 20
@averagejoe1 said“ Looks like I won another.”
You're losing credence, Wolf. You say above '...like Avis makes cars'. Wolf, does a cook make eggs? Your logic then, is that a cook does not produce? How about a kindergarten teacher. Does she produce? Why dont you start another thread, so that this one can be forgotten. Looks like I won another.
Yeah try rubbing your eyes and have another look.
Just to clarify cooks don’t produce eggs, kindergarten teachers don’t produce children and landlords don’t produce homes.
@kevcvs57 saidYou are with me, thanks. Wolf seems to think that I said that landlords produce homes. Landlords hire contractors, have homes built, physical structures. Then they produce spaces inside of those four walls, or how many walls, spaces paid for by those receiving value which is produced and made available by the landlord.
“ Looks like I won another.”
Yeah try rubbing your eyes and have another look.
Just to clarify cooks don’t produce eggs, kindergarten teachers don’t produce children and landlords don’t produce homes.
He has produced a secure living environment for a family, and also he’s produced revenues to the city in the form of taxes, which came indirectly from the tenant in the property. I love this country.
Please forward this to Wolf. In short, The landlord paid for the contractors to build the home, and then he produced a value in that home for the benefit of a tenant.
PS. I think I will tell the cook in the kitchen in one of my delis that he is not producing a dam thing. I wonder what his response will be. He will probably disagree with me
@averagejoe1 said“ You are with me, thanks. Wolf seems to think that I said that landlords produce homes. Landlords hire contractors, have homes built, physical structures. ”
You are with me, thanks. Wolf seems to think that I said that landlords produce homes. Landlords hire contractors, have homes built, physical structures. Then they produce spaces inside of those four walls, or how many walls, spaces paid for by those receiving value which is produced and made available by the landlord.
He has produced a secure living environment for a ...[text shortened]... is not producing a dam thing. I wonder what his response will be. He will probably disagree with me
Well it was nice while it lasted AJ but no this is not the pattern at all. Landlords with private housing portfolios tend to buy up existing housing usually at low market cost, their favourites are bank repossessions and rent them back out for profit all the while amassing latent profit in the property itself. They produce nothing and they cause nothing to be produced other than profit for themselves and artificially high property prices by removing chunks of supply from the balance.
20 Aug 20
@kevcvs57 saidOK,I like this discussion. First, we have to stipulate that I said 'landlord hires contractor to build the (subject) property", to keep it simple, so Wolf would understand. But, You interject that landlord purchases housing. (acquires buildings in another way). We might lose Wolf here, but here is the deal......It makes no difference how the landlord owns the property. That is Irrelevant to Wolf saying that the landlord does not produce anything when he makes the property available.
“ You are with me, thanks. Wolf seems to think that I said that landlords produce homes. Landlords hire contractors, have homes built, physical structures. ”
Well it was nice while it lasted AJ but no this is not the pattern at all. Landlords with private housing portfolios tend to buy up existing housing usually at low market cost, their favourites are bank repossessions ...[text shortened]... for themselves and artificially high property prices by removing chunks of supply from the balance.
It is a given that landlord will buy at low market cost, so would you. Next, regarding this question of production, I dont see why you mention the profit reaped by the landlord. Again, a liberal dodge. We are talking about whether he is producing anything, which I have clearly answered. As to artificial prices, I can only say a landlord can charge anything he would like to, this is America. When he collects the money, applying tenets of supply and demand, there is nothing artificial about it.
Don't get '...removing chunks of supply from the balance'.
My two minutes are up.