07 Apr 23
@no1marauder saidyou are making a fool of yourself…go read the 6th amendment and holler back
It's put front and center, in bold thirty four times!
07 Apr 23
@no1marauder saidWhat crime, minister of doublespeak! Be the first to announce it, no one has on the global airwaves.
It's put front and center, in bold thirty four times!
07 Apr 23
@averagejoe1 saidI must admit I'm at a total loss of what to think of people who are so brainwashed that they would rather believe what their propaganda sources tell them then their own eyes.
What crime, minister of doublespeak! Be the first to announce it, no one has on the global airwaves.
Here's the indictment: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-indictment-34-felony-counts-charges-new-york-read/
34 times it states that Trump is accused of separate counts of the crime of FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRSTDEGREE, in violation of Penal Law §175.10 (even going to the trouble of putting the title of the statute in bold.
Yet, Mott, AJ and god knows who else here just cannot bring themselves to admit that they have been deluded into thinking the charge in nowhere in the indictment.
What can possibly explain it?
07 Apr 23
@AverageJoe1
I WILL ANSWER THAT BS QUESTION. BECAUSE TRUMP IS A FUKKKING CRIMINAL AND HAS BEEN FOR DECADES.
07 Apr 23
@no1marauder saidwhy dont you describe one of these charges for us underlings?
I must admit I'm at a total loss of what to think of people who are so brainwashed that they would rather believe what their propaganda sources tell them then their own eyes.
Here's the indictment: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-indictment-34-felony-counts-charges-new-york-read/
34 times it states that Trump is accused of separate counts of the crime of FALSIFYI ...[text shortened]... been deluded into thinking the charge in nowhere in the indictment.
What can possibly explain it?
“In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.”
07 Apr 23
@mott-the-hoople saidTrump's not on trial yet but many of the charges give specific check numbers bearing his signature which are alleged to be false business records in violation of the Penal Law statute. Other charges identify various entries in business accounts recording these fraudulent transactions.
why dont you describe one of these charges for us underlings?
“In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, [b]and to be informed of the nature and cause of the acc ...[text shortened]... rocess for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.”
Trump is well-informed of the "nature and cause of the accusation".
07 Apr 23
@no1marauder saidMarauder, it is about a law in NY against falsifying business records. You and Mott and I know that to be a misdemeanor. The reason the pitiful little charge was made at all is because, you guessed it, he is Donald Trump and hated by many of those involved. Get Trump! Find a Reason!
Trump's not on trial yet but many of the charges give specific check numbers bearing his signature which are alleged to be false business records in violation of the Penal Law statute. Other charges identify various entries in business accounts recording these fraudulent transactions.
Trump is well-informed of the "nature and cause of the accusation".
So, here we simply see that (they are saying ) he falsified a corporate record. But for that, to even be a misdemeanor , you have to be trying to defraud somebody. It is unclear exactly who was defrauded....actually, it was his OWN company. Jesus.
So please respond in the spirit of my simple post herein, so that we don't continue traveling along a path of a baseless charge. Can you give us a responsible counter to what I just laid out? And, tell how there is a for-real crime?
07 Apr 23
@no1marauder saidMarauder fails to say it is a misdemeanor. I could scream having to ferret out all of the vacuous-ism in the posts of liberals.
I must admit I'm at a total loss of what to think of people who are so brainwashed that they would rather believe what their propaganda sources tell them then their own eyes.
Here's the indictment: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-indictment-34-felony-counts-charges-new-york-read/
34 times it states that Trump is accused of separate counts of the crime of FALSIFYI ...[text shortened]... been deluded into thinking the charge in nowhere in the indictment.
What can possibly explain it?
They do not close their posts. They do not answer questions. I feel like the Forum Monitor. Should I go over to the other Forums and look them over?
07 Apr 23
@averagejoe1 saidYou are incorrect; Falsifying Business Records in the First Degree is a Class E felony in NY.
Marauder fails to say it is a misdemeanor. I could scream having to ferret out all of the vacuous-ism in the posts of liberals.
They do not close their posts. They do not answer questions. I feel like the Forum Monitor. Should I go over to the other Forums and look them over?
07 Apr 23
@averagejoe1 saidAs far as "intent to defraud" as an element of the crime of Falsifying Business Records in NY, here's some homework for ya: https://www.justsecurity.org/85831/the-broad-scope-of-intent-to-defraud-in-the-new-york-crime-of-falsifying-business-records/
Marauder, it is about a law in NY against falsifying business records. You and Mott and I know that to be a misdemeanor. The reason the pitiful little charge was made at all is because, you guessed it, he is Donald Trump and hated by many of those involved. Get Trump! Find a Reason!
So, here we simply see that (they are saying ) he falsified a corporate record. Bu ...[text shortened]... you give us a responsible counter to what I just laid out? And, tell how there is a for-real crime?
07 Apr 23
@no1marauder saidI am indisposed for a link right now, and I unsubscribed NexLex so at a loss on knowing the NY law. But for 100 years, the universal standard, which is all I can go by in an argument, such as this would be that it is a misdemeanor, which could be bounced up to a felony under under certain circumstances, of which Bragg will be digging deep to find. That has not happened. There is no felony.
As far as "intent to defraud" as an element of the crime of Falsifying Business Records in NY, here's some homework for ya: https://www.justsecurity.org/85831/the-broad-scope-of-intent-to-defraud-in-the-new-york-crime-of-falsifying-business-records/
@no1marauder saidno one knows the "cause and nature" of the charges...even Trump has constitutional rights.
Trump's not on trial yet but many of the charges give specific check numbers bearing his signature which are alleged to be false business records in violation of the Penal Law statute. Other charges identify various entries in business accounts recording these fraudulent transactions.
Trump is well-informed of the "nature and cause of the accusation".
Oh thats right, laws dont mean anything to libs do they?
a check number??? LMFAO
@averagejoe1 saidthat is as I said before.
I am indisposed for a link right now, and I unsubscribed NexLex so at a loss on knowing the NY law. But for 100 years, the universal standard, which is all I can go by in an argument, such as this would be that it is a misdemeanor, which could be bounced up to a felony under under certain circumstances, of which Bragg will be digging deep to find. That has not happened. There is no felony.
The way these communist work is someone like the soros funded bragg makes claims like this and the state run media hypes it up...remember when the documents they found were nuclear secrets and we were all about to be blown up?
@averagejoe1 saidThe DA has the ability to pursue this as a felony if it can be showed that crime was committed with the intent of covering up another crime; this is what would make the misdemeanor a felony.
I am indisposed for a link right now, and I unsubscribed NexLex so at a loss on knowing the NY law. But for 100 years, the universal standard, which is all I can go by in an argument, such as this would be that it is a misdemeanor, which could be bounced up to a felony under under certain circumstances, of which Bragg will be digging deep to find. That has not happened. There is no felony.
Also: campaign finance violations are a federal crime and are felonies by themselves regardless of Trump committing business records fraud.