19 May 20
@joe-shmo saidGood points.
I think Americans don't place stock in their "leadership" like the rest of the world, because political "leadership" does not exist in a nation of free people. The positions of Trump and the rest of the people in politics in America exist to serve the will of people. People in American politics are mostly experts in the game of politics, nothing more. They are not uniquel ...[text shortened]... , for the people"
does not equal
"government of the Leaders, by the Leaders, for the people"
A successful American Pol is a conman. Witness the Governor of New York, Cuomo. People adore him. Yet he has - by far, the most dismal treatment of the COVID pandemic of anyone. Cuomo at one point had an approval rating of 84%!! lol.
Silly gullible liberals.
19 May 20
@eladar saidI asked you whether you now accepted your prediction was wrong. Do you now agree that it was wrong?
Lol, and the top British experts predicted 2.2 million. My guess was better than their models!
83k deaths from pneumonia, not a word about this in the media. Somehow Covid deaths are so terribly high, but pneumonia? Crickets lol.
@rank-outsider saidI accept all predictions to be wrong. All you can guess is a ball park number. My prediction is in the ball park.
I asked you whether you now accepted your prediction was wrong. Do you now agree that it was wrong?
According to Birx, the true number of deaths from covid is more like 67k atm.
19 May 20
@eladar saidA pandemic that kills faster than war probably should be considered a pandemic.
Pandemic that kills so few people is not much of a pandemic.
Although covid is contagious, it kills very, very few people 40 or younger. It is really only an issue for people aged older than 65 who can easily stay home since they are generally retired.
Average age of a person killed by covid is well over 75, more like 82 I think.
This thing kills the elderly, so why shut down the entire society?
19 May 20
@eladar saidBirx is a partisan tool.
I accept all predictions to be wrong. All you can guess is a ball park number. My prediction is in the ball park.
According to Birx, the true number of deaths from covid is more like 67k atm.
19 May 20
@earl-of-trumps saidWitness Donald Trump.
Good points.
A successful American Pol is a conman. Witness the Governor of New York, Cuomo. People adore him. Yet he has - by far, the most dismal treatment of the COVID pandemic of anyone. Cuomo at one point had an approval rating of 84%!! lol.
Silly gullible liberals.
19 May 20
@rank-outsider saidDepends on your plus or minus.
@Eladar
Put a figure on where your 'not even close to 60,000' prediction would no longer be 'in the ballpark'.
In any case, not even close to 60k is better than the imperial college's prediction.
I should be getting paid their big bucks.
19 May 20
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@Rank-outsider
Get over yourself.
How about this figure..83k dead from pneumonia and nobody cares.
19 May 20
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@eladar saidOK - I'll ask another question.
@Rank-outsider
Get over yourself.
How about this figure..83k dead from pneumonia and nobody cares.
Was the 2.2m prediction based on going into lockdown or not going into lockdown?
19 May 20
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@rank-outsider saidIt was based on no lockdown.
OK - I'll ask another question.
Was the 2.2m prediction based on going into lockdown or not going into lockdown?
Now I ask you did Sweden Lockdown?
Based on Sweden's numbers the US could expect to see 125k deaths without a lockdown at this point.
This would mean that the lockdown saved 35k lives from covid. This translates to .01 Percent of the population , or one in every 10k people.
Well, perhaps put off their deaths by a year or two, perhaps 3 depending on how long it takes to get herd immunity.
19 May 20
@eladar saidOk
It was based on no lockdown.
Now I ask you did Sweden Lockdown?
Based on Sweden's numbers the US could to expect to see 125k deaths without a lockdown at this point.
This would mean that the lockdown saved 35k lives from covid. This translates to .01 Percent of the population , or one in every 10k people.
Well, perhaps put off their deaths by a year or two, perhaps 3 depending on how long it takes to get herd immunity.
So you made a prediction of ‘nowhere close to 60,000’ knowing that an actual lockdown was taking place. Indeed, you basically said that this would be the total even if no measures were put in place.
A prediction of 2.2m was made based on the explicit assumption that no lockdown was put in place.
Your prediction based on actual circumstances is currently out by a factor of about 100%. But that prediction is better than a prediction based on a premise that never actually occurred.
Is that about right?
19 May 20
@rank-outsider saidIt did occur in a control group, Sweden.
Ok
So you made a prediction of ‘nowhere close to 60,000’ knowing that an actual lockdown was taking place. Indeed, you basically said that this would be the total even if no measures were put in place.
A prediction of 2.2m was made based on the explicit assumption that no lockdown was put in place.
Your prediction based on actual circumstances is currently out ...[text shortened]... is better than a prediction based on a premise that never actually occurred.
Is that about right?
Obviously you have no real desire to discuss so I am done responding to you other than to point out that you are just a sock puppet looking to be a troll.
