Originally posted by PBE6Please read my earlier post. Yes, there will be some overlap, but the general relationship is that higher chess rating = higher IQ.
What about JamesWoodley? He seems boderline retarded when he writes, but his rating keeps improving. Oh, I forgot - he's a weaselly little cheat. That explains it.
I've seen a few posts by higher-rated players (1600+) that seem to demonstrate a complete incomprehension of syntax and whatever 15-grunt alphabet they use. I've also seen some posts by low ...[text shortened]... ess rating on this site and their abilities with the written word, it's anything but clear.
Many women are physically stronger than men; that does not invalidate the point that, in general, men are stronger than women.
Originally posted by ivangricehigher chess ratings = greater chess skills.
Please read my earlier post. Yes, there will be some overlap, but the general relationship is that higher chess rating = higher IQ.
Many women are physically stronger than men; that does not invalidate the point that, in general, men are stronger than women.
that is the only valid relationship that can be seen here. whatever theory you're putting forth here is unfounded rubbish.
Originally posted by darvlayMy dictionary defines Intelligence as: the ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations.
higher chess ratings = greater chess skills.
that is the only valid relationship that can be seen here. whatever theory you're putting forth here is unfounded rubbish.
Isn't that what a game of chess is all about? So isn't it reasonable to assert that someone who has exhibited a high level of "chess skills" has also shown a fairly high degree of intelligence?
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Originally posted by no1marauderMy dictionary.com defines intelligence as the capacity to acquire and apply knowledge. I suppose it could be argued that someone with a high intelligence could improve their chess skills at a higher rate and therefore become a good chess player in less time than someone with a lesser intelligence beginning to learn at the same time. But to generalise and say that the higher the rating, the smarter the person is horribly inaccurate and, frankly, unintelligent.
My dictionary defines Intelligence as: the ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations.
Isn't that what a game of chess is all about? So isn't it reasonable to assert that someone who has ...[text shortened]... hess skills" has also shown a fairly high degree of intelligence?
Besides that would make you much more intelligent than me. And I tend to think that you're not necesarilly much more intelligent - just much, much, much older. 😀
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I guess I didn't really answer your question directly.
Originally posted by no1marauder
So isn't it reasonable to assert that someone who has exhibited a high level of "chess skills" has also shown a fairly high degree of intelligence?
Yes. If you are an IM or a GM, it would be pretty safe to say that you have a high level of intelligence. After all, this isn't checkers we're playing.
Originally posted by darvlayHang on, what am I saying that is 'rubbish'? Chess is a game of the mind. I am simply stating that excellence in this mental pursuit *tends* to be correlated with intelligence.
higher chess ratings = greater chess skills.
that is the only valid relationship that can be seen here. whatever theory you're putting forth here is unfounded rubbish.
What is so controversial?
Originally posted by darvlayEr...aren't you agreeing with my general point here?
I guess I didn't really answer your question directly.
Originally posted by no1marauder
[b]So isn't it reasonable to assert that someone who has exhibited a high level of "chess skills" has also shown a fairly high degree of intelligence?
Yes. If you are an IM or a GM, it would be pretty safe to say that you have a high level of intelligence. After all, this isn't checkers we're playing.[/b]
Originally posted by ivangriceThis is the statement that is rubbish:
Hang on, what am I saying that is 'rubbish'? Chess is a game of the mind. I am simply stating that excellence in this mental pursuit *tends* to be correlated with intelligence.
What is so controversial?
I think one can generalise in that there is certainly a correlation between chess rating and IQ. Look at the posts from the people with the higher ratings, and compare with the posts from those people with the lower ratings (native English speakers).
Originally posted by ivangriceNo, because that IM or GM does not necessarily tend to have a higher intelligence than someone rated some arbitrary value below him. I'm just stating that he is likely to be of high intelligence.
Er...aren't you agreeing with my general point here?
Originally posted by darvlayIf at any time after I was 10 years old, my chess and posting skills were as primitive as your's obviously are, I would have committed hara-kiri in shame thus avoiding the advance of age and the embarrassment of people looking upon me in pity.
My dictionary.com defines intelligence as the capacity to acquire and apply knowledge. I suppose it could be argued that someone with a high intelligence could improve their chess skills at a higher rate and therefore become a good chess player in less time than someone with a lesser intelligence beginning to learn at the same time. But to generalise and s ...[text shortened]... d to think that you're not necesarilly much more intelligent - just much, much, much older. 😀
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Originally posted by no1marauderActually, normal people usually take pity in anyone geeky enough to spend their days playing chess over the internet. Yourself included. And I'm certain they would take exceptional pity to you if they knew how you bragged about your self-conceived superiority. So anytime you're ready... *passes the hari-kiri knife*
If at any time after I was 10 years old, my chess and posting skills were as primitive as your's obviously are, I would have committed hara-kiri in shame thus avoiding the advance of age and the embarrassment of people looking upon me in pity.
There is a loose correlation between chess ability and IQ, but it's not absolute. A lot of very intelligent people are mediocre chess players,no matter how hard they study, and some dull-normal types can be quite good at chess with a small amount of effort. Among the top-notch players however, there is no doubt that it takes a superior intellect. (excluding idiot-savants, and I don't know of any in the chess world, has anyone here heard of one?)
Originally posted by darvlayI spend my days making a couple hundred bucks an hour when I actually work and since I'm ain't greedy or pretentious this allows me plenty of time to play online chess. I guess I'll just have to learn to live with the pity of "normal" people.
Actually, normal people usually take pity in anyone geeky enough to spend their days playing chess over the internet. Yourself included. And I'm certain they would take exceptional pity to you if they knew how you bragged about your self-conceived superiority. So anytime you're ready... *passes the hari-kiri knife*
Originally posted by Dodger11From the thread "who america will attack next"
There is a loose correlation between chess ability and IQ, but it's not absolute. A lot of very intelligent people are mediocre chess players,no matter how hard they study, and some dull-normal types can be quite good at chess with a small amount of effort. Among the top-notch players however, there is no doubt that it takes a superior intellect. (excluding idiot-savants, and I don't know of any in the chess world, has anyone here heard of one?)
Originally posted by Dodger11
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perhaps ivangrice has been right all along?