Debates
26 Oct 22
Translated from republicaneze: "I don't like the way one candidate slurred a few of his words after a few months since a massive stroke. So I am going to vote for the lying snake oil peddler, puppy killing fraud fascist doctor (or just not vote at all). "
Fetterman is more coherent after a stroke than 70% of the senate and the orange former president. I don't give a fuk if he can't give snappy speeches, i only care about what issues he is voting yay or nay on and his yays and nays are good.
@no1marauder saidNothing petty about blocking this guy from sitting in a senate seat. What is wrong with you, man. Any question ever put to him will have to be in captions.....not that he could ever answer it. Did you see his answer,,,,'I favor fracking, I always have,,I, ;uh will favor grackigk and I favor fracking'. Why push his election? What if my senator has to sit next to him? Certainly he his odorous. Why duo you gravitate to be a fly in the ointment, as you aLways are?
In 2012, Republican Senator Mark Kirk suffered a stroke and was absent from the Senate for almost a year. Rather than refer to him as a "retard" or find his temporary disability "indefensible" Democrats refrained from such attacks and Vice President Biden was there to greet him upon his return and help him up the Capitol steps.
Right wingers should be ashamed of their petty, partisan viciousness.
- Joined
- 05 Nov 06
- Moves
- 147487
@no1marauder said"Should the decision whether to have an abortion or not really be up to "women, doctors and local political leaders" as Dr. Oz said? '
Should the decision whether to have an abortion or not really be up to "women, doctors and local political leaders" as Dr. Oz said?
Nothing Fetterman, a man recovering from a stroke (and people do recover from them) equaled the stupidity of that remark.
how does this differ from when R v W was active?
@averagejoe1 saidYou have the philosophy of the Framers 100% incorrect.
Get grounded, Marauder,,,,,are you trying to sound like the The Oracle?
The individuals, within the states, have the rights that are given to them by their respective states. Of course, I am SURE you know, the Constitution gives the rights within each state to....you guessed it...individuals. It would follow that they send whomever to the EC.
Concepts on the Forum do not get more simple than that.
Governments don't give individuals rights.
- Joined
- 05 Nov 06
- Moves
- 147487
27 Oct 22
@no1marauder saidLMFAO...how does a person respond to such ignorance?
You have the philosophy of the Framers 100% incorrect.
Governments don't give individuals rights.
@no1marauder saidDid I say govt gives individual rights? Actually, the government does give certain rights to American citizens, made possible by the constitution. I don’t know where you’re going with the issue, but whatever you are saying is irrelevant. Everyone that lives in the state votes on anything they want to inside that state. If it is not in violation of the constitution, they can do anything they want to. Why would you take exception to this common concept. There’s no other way to cut it. Geez
You have the philosophy of the Framers 100% incorrect.
Governments don't give individuals rights.
@mott-the-hoople saidYou think James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and the rest were "ignorant"?
LMFAO...how does a person respond to such ignorance?
@averagejoe1 saidNo, the government of the US nor any other government does not give you any rights; they either recognize the rights you had (which existed before there were any governments) or they are a tyranny which the People are justified in overthrowing, by force if necessary.
Did I say govt gives individual rights? Actually, the government does give certain rights to American citizens, made possible by the constitution. I don’t know where you’re going with the issue, but whatever you are saying is irrelevant. Everyone that lives in the state votes on anything they want to inside that state. If it is not in violation of the constitution, they c ...[text shortened]... y want to. Why would you take exception to this common concept. There’s no other way to cut it. Geez
But just in case you thought there's some exception for State governments in the US, try reading the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.
@averagejoe1 saidState governments are granted a legitimate power to legislate on behalf of the People.
If you live in Arizona, and you don’t like something that was voted on in the state of Iowa, do you think you have standing to come out and try to change it or, that you may have any weight on the subject?
Really, why don’t you just say average Joe you do have a point. What is your problem?
They are not granted the power to violate individual Natural Rights no matter what a transient legislative majority might think.
@averagejoe1 saidFetterman, like Senator Kirk, is still a fairly young man and entirely likely to fully recover from his stroke.
Nothing petty about blocking this guy from sitting in a senate seat. What is wrong with you, man. Any question ever put to him will have to be in captions.....not that he could ever answer it. Did you see his answer,,,,'I favor fracking, I always have,,I, ;uh will favor grackigk and I favor fracking'. Why push his election? What if my senator has to sit next to him? Certainly he his odorous. Why duo you gravitate to be a fly in the ointment, as you aLways are?
You, however, apparently will never recover from being an ignorant, gullible piece of partisan trash.
- Joined
- 05 Nov 06
- Moves
- 147487
@no1marauder saidno I dont, but undoubtedly you do
You think James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and the rest were "ignorant"?
https://teachingamericanhistory.org/blog/madison-and-jefferson-discuss-the-bill-of-rights/
- Joined
- 05 Nov 06
- Moves
- 147487
@no1marauder saidno one claimed they did...trying to find something to be "right" on?
State governments are granted a legitimate power to legislate on behalf of the People.
They are not granted the power to violate individual Natural Rights no matter what a transient legislative majority might think.
27 Oct 22
@no1marauder
Actually, the decision isn't up to the States - it's still up to the women. All the States can do is make them criminals for exercising their Natural Right to bodily sovereignty.
==============
You have to codify it. Oz is right, and I am not an Oz fan.
27 Oct 22
@earl-of-trumps saidWhatever the States codify or don't codify, the decision will be up to the woman involved.
@no1marauder
Actually, the decision isn't up to the States - it's still up to the women. All the States can do is make them criminals for exercising their Natural Right to bodily sovereignty.
==============
You have to codify it. Oz is right, and I am not an Oz fan.