@kevcvs57 saidI have heard no one threatening violence. I'm just saying in general that societies move in that direction when election results are not trustworthy.
There is absolutely no difference in this election compared to any other election in terms of transparency or incidence of fraud.
The only difference is the lying cheating narcissist in the White House who stated for everyone to hear that he would only accept the result if he won. The fact the alt right in America are threatening violence should have no impact on the resul ...[text shortened]... the outgoing one has to prove they did.
The alt rights hurt feelings are not part of the equation.
Interestingly, CNN, MSNBC, etc. refused to cover the press conference yesterday because they say it was "bananas". So tell me if you accept this. Television stations refused to cover a news event because it was TOO INTERSTING. There was nothing on the planet more interesting than the news conference yesterday. That's true even if their claims are false. I suspect CNN is trying to prevent people such as yourself from hearing the other side.
Consider one example of the 138,000 vote Dump, all for Biden. Mainstream media claims this is debunked. I'm pretty solid in my mathematical skills and analytic skills. Here is an article "dubunking" the claim.
https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/gop-clerks-typo-michigan-fuels-false-vote-dumping-claims
I can't ask the author questions. Can you (or anyone) read this article and tell me if you believe it or not? If so, I'd like to ask you a few questions. I'm willing to be persuaded. Here is your chance to change my mind on this fairly big point.
Whether anyone answers on here or not, I believe Americans deserve a reasonable answer to this question, even if that requires more investigation.
I'm really striving to be open minded. I'm still waiting for help.
Can someone who thinks there is no fraud read this article and see if it leaves any obvious unanswered questions? If you feel like you fully understand and accept the explanation, I'd like to then ask my questions and have you explain it to me.
https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/gop-clerks-typo-michigan-fuels-false-vote-dumping-claims
More often than not, a reasonable explanation can be found. So I think there is a strong possibility someone will understand this better than me, or be able to find more information elsewhere. So here is your chance to convert me.
@techsouth said
I'm really striving to be open minded. I'm still waiting for help.
Can someone who thinks there is no fraud read this article and see if it leaves any obvious unanswered questions? If you feel like you fully understand and accept the explanation, I'd like to then ask my questions and have you explain it to me.
https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/gop-clerks- ...[text shortened]... etter than me, or be able to find more information elsewhere. So here is your chance to convert me.
More often than not, a reasonable explanation can be foundThe three alerts on your previous post clearly indicate how some people have absolutely no interest in being confronted by a reasonable explanation.
20 Nov 20
@lemon-lime
Yes. The scary thing is that even the most implausible explanation will do because the likes of CNN aren't going to seek clarification. There is such a glaringly obvious question this leaves unanswered, I'm convinced this alone proves America has been the victim of a relentless PsyOp. Still, I'm not ruling out that somehow the question can be satisfactorily answered. It's just that so many American's don't really understand the explanation given, but are willing to accept it with no further questions.
20 Nov 20
@techsouth saidWhat is confusing about the explanation? A key stroke error was made and quickly corrected though not before it temporarily appeared on Decision Desk HQ's site.
I'm really striving to be open minded. I'm still waiting for help.
Can someone who thinks there is no fraud read this article and see if it leaves any obvious unanswered questions? If you feel like you fully understand and accept the explanation, I'd like to then ask my questions and have you explain it to me.
https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/gop-clerks- ...[text shortened]... etter than me, or be able to find more information elsewhere. So here is your chance to convert me.
Really nothing to see here.
20 Nov 20
@no1marauder saidSo a keystroke caused 138,000 extra votes for Biden and was corrected?
What is confusing about the explanation? A key stroke error was made and quickly corrected though not before it temporarily appeared on Decision Desk HQ's site.
Really nothing to see here.
Should we not see shortly after the error 138,000 votes disappear from Biden? What am I missing?
20 Nov 20
@techsouth saidYou did if you were following Decision Desk HQ that night.
So a keystroke caused 138,000 extra votes for Biden and was corrected?
Should we not see shortly after the error 138,000 votes disappear from Biden? What am I missing?
20 Nov 20
@no1marauder saidDo you have a plot of the graph that shows the decline?
You did if you were following Decision Desk HQ that night.
I can find plots that show the sudden jump, but I don't find any that show a subsequent decline.
@techsouth saidWhat point are you trying to make with the article? It points out that a typo was made, by a Republican, which was quickly fixed, and Trump won that county by 8,000 votes.
I'm really striving to be open minded. I'm still waiting for help.
Can someone who thinks there is no fraud read this article and see if it leaves any obvious unanswered questions? If you feel like you fully understand and accept the explanation, I'd like to then ask my questions and have you explain it to me.
https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/gop-clerks- ...[text shortened]... etter than me, or be able to find more information elsewhere. So here is your chance to convert me.
What "fraud" are you referring to? Can you cite specifics from the article?
20 Nov 20
@techsouth saidhttps://mobile.twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1324059542343294976
Do you have a plot of the graph that shows the decline?
I can find plots that show the sudden jump, but I don't find any that show a subsequent decline.
20 Nov 20
@vivify saidMaybe Rudy can fix it with some of that shoe polish he rubs on his hair.
What point are you trying to make with the article? It points out that a typo was made, by a Republican, which was quickly fixed, and Trump won that county by 8,000 votes.
What "fraud" are you referring to? Can you cite specifics from the article?
20 Nov 20
@no1marauder saidAlso, I'm curious if you were up and saw it yourself, or are you just trusting it happened?
You did if you were following Decision Desk HQ that night.
Rudy Giuliani put up a graph yesterday that showed a certain jump. Naturally few Americans saw it because the news have adapted a business model to not report the MOST INTERESTING thing that happened yesterday. But had they reported it, it seems like it would be a very easy thing to present a more correct graph that shows why Giuliani's graph was wrong. If RG presented a false graph, the correct graph could be awesome front page news. Just imagine "Giuliani's Fake Graph. Update at 11".
Let's stipulate that RG's graph was fake. In the interest of national unity, couldn't someone investigate and report on it for the benefit of all those fooled by RG? And in doing the investigation, can the demonstrate that they actually investigated by addressing at what point the 138,000 votes got subtracted back out?
20 Nov 20
@handyandy saidGood one. I'm now convinced my suspicion was not well founded.
Maybe Rudy can fix it with some of that shoe polish he rubs on his hair.
20 Nov 20
@no1marauder saidThis just repeats the initial claim that I was asking about. I followed a few of the links in the thread, I'm still not seeing a graph nor finding anything that explains at what point the running total was reduced by 138,000 votes.
https://mobile.twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1324059542343294976