29 May 07
I am a little bit hesitant about people being home schooled. Now, this is a definite generalization, but nearly every person that I have ever met who has been home schooled has had problems interacting in a social environment. I am not sure that keeping your kids home is worth it in the long run.
Everybody likes to think that school is only about academics, but in my opinion, school is much more about learning social skills. It seems that those kids who were home schooled miss out on learning social skills. Even if they participate in school clubs or athletics, they are still weird.
Just my opinion though, a lot of people feel differently.
29 May 07
Originally posted by techsouthI have a friend that was homeschooled. Very intelligent person, got offered 2 year ride to Notre Damn when she was 17. Didn't go because she was afraid basically.
This is something I'm considering.
Good, bad, indifferent?
Homeschooling is all about the teacher. There are many homeschool groups. Take advantage of what they offer. They have almost endless resources and countless opportunities for outings with other homeschooled kids. Don't neglect the childs requirement for social interaction and, like public education, teach a broad array of subjects and anything your else hild would like to learn as "electives". Except, unlike public education, teach those subjects in real depth.
29 May 07
Originally posted by techsouthGood.. very good... as long as your a good parent,
This is something I'm considering.
Good, bad, indifferent?
Most of my friends are homeschoolers (my state has one of the largest populations of homeschoolers) Way less drugs, sex, drunkenness problems, and also it gives the child a chance to do well in what he/she likes. I would never be where Im at today if my parents sent me to public schools. I started playing banjo at 12, got very good at it. My dad taught me construction at a very early age, and by 18 years old I was supervising his jobs, also I was able to immerse myself in flight training to become a commercial pilot, and I was the only one in my college class that was debt free (because of my sweat), and GPA 4.0
When I was 18, I would look at the public school graduates, they were so immature, they went to college, got themselves into massive debts. then start the same job I had when I was 14, making half as much as me. My sister is 20, and making +100k a year, she wouldve never been able to had that opportunity, had she went to public school.
Plus Im amazed that how putting "Home-schooled" on a resume helps so much. It stands out from the rest of the crowd.
You kids will be so thankful to you when they see how imature other teens are. It will give them a sense of pride.
The only cons are that everyone expects to homeschoolers to be so much smarter. Were not any smarter, I dont know how many people as soon as they hear I was home-schooled, that they start quizzing me about all their maths problems, and asking me what are the dates of different events that happened etc. Homeschoolers have a chance to do what they like best, but are generally are just average in their weaker subjects, (for me english was my weak point,)
the only other con is that some homeschoolers are sometimes less involved socially. Lucky for me, we had a big home school group of about 200 kids, and we would do field trips, skiing, and other sports a couple times a week. The good thing about it is, is that you do it with other kids of all ages, not just with your own age group.
Your kids will thank you in later years if you do,
however this is just my 43 cents worth (adjusted for inflation)
29 May 07
Originally posted by techsouthI had a friend who was home schooled and she later went on to testify before the Oklahoma legislature in favor of the education she received. Moreover, she went on to Baylor University Law School and set up a family law private practice.
This is something I'm considering.
Good, bad, indifferent?
29 May 07
Originally posted by flyUnityYou mention that the kids coming out of public schools are immature. I'm not getting the connection, are you saying that high school makes students immature? That is a huge generalization. There are mature high school graduates and there are immature high school graduates.
Good.. very good... as long as your a good parent,
Most of my friends are homeschoolers (my state has one of the largest populations of homeschoolers) Way less drugs, sex, drunkenness problems, and also it gives the child a chance to do well in what he/she likes. I would never be where Im at today if my parents sent me to public schools. I started playi ...[text shortened]... you in later years if you do,
however this is just my 43 cents worth (adjusted for inflation)
I am not sure that the advantages you got from being home schooled were because you were taught in the home or just because you are a successful individual. I have met many high school graduates who have GPAs just as high as yours and who are debt free as well.
I am not trying to offend you, but did you ever learn in your home not to judge or look down on other people. Who are you to say that they were any more or less mature than you? Perhaps that is a social skill that you missed out on by not going to public school.
Besides all of this, I am not entirely sure that receiving a great education is more important than learning social skills. Either way, a person is educated because they want to be and has almost nothing to do with how they were educated.
29 May 07
Originally posted by DraxusClearly we would all agree that there are some homeschoolers, some private school graduates, some public school graduates, and some high school drop-outs who have attained success in life.
You mention that the kids coming out of public schools are immature. I'm not getting the connection, are you saying that high school makes students immature? That is a huge generalization. There are mature high school graduates and there are immature high school graduates.
I am not sure that the advantages you got from being home schooled were because y ...[text shortened]... n is educated because they want to be and has almost nothing to do with how they were educated.
The question is about which has a better chance of success, and what are the likely advantages and pitfalls. No part of this conversation needs to be regarded as dealing in abolutes.
We see this on the web a lot. Someone makes a generalization such as "public schooler graduates are immature", and the statement is taken to be an absolute. The author is then treated to a lecture on the fact that not all of such and such a class are like that.
For me, there is worthwhile information in things that are not absolutes. It would be worthwhile knowing that 80% of public school grads are immature at the point of graduation verses 20% of homeschoolers, even though neither are fool-proof predictors of success or failure for any plan. Also, I am fine if someone simplifies and says "public school graduates are immature" as a shortcut for a statement such as "from my informal observation I have found that public school graduates, at the point of graduation, or shortly there-after have an elevated tendency to be immature in comparison to homeschoolers at the same point of life."
Perhaps I am being too gracious. But I find it impossible to beleive anyone here is so stupid as to think that all public school grads are immature and that no homeschool grads are immature, so I have to interpret concise statements to the effect a little less extreme.
29 May 07
Originally posted by techsouthPerhaps my point was not clear, but I believe that the chance for success in life has nothing to do with school and everything to do with the individual.
The question is about which has a better chance of success, and what are the likely advantages and pitfalls. No part of this conversation needs to be regarded as dealing in abolutes.
We see this on the web a lot. Someone makes a generalization such as "public schooler graduates are immature", and the statement is taken to be an absolute. The author i ...[text shortened]... n treated to a lecture on the fact that not [b]all of such and such a class are like that.[/b]
I was not lecturing him about absolutes. Perhaps you read my post wrong because you disagree with my conclusion?
29 May 07
Originally posted by DraxusPeople act according to their environment, though some will take more advantage of a good environment than others.
Perhaps my point was not clear, but I believe that the chance for success in life has nothing to do with school and everything to do with the individual.
I was not lecturing him about absolutes. Perhaps you read my post wrong because you disagree with my conclusion?
29 May 07
Originally posted by techsouthI met someone who was homeschooled who got upset when we played a card game (cheat) because he couldn't understand the concept of lying.
This is something I'm considering.
Good, bad, indifferent?
It depends on whether or not they have the opportunity to interact with peers their own age as to how they develop socially.
29 May 07
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Originally posted by Draxus"Who are you to say that they were any more or less mature than you? Perhaps that is a social skill that you missed out on by not going to public school. "
Perhaps my point was not clear, but I believe that the chance for success in life has nothing to do with school and everything to do with the individual.
I was not lecturing him about absolutes. Perhaps you read my post wrong because you disagree with my conclusion?
What are you trying to say here? The only two things I can see are that homeschoolers might not be able to evaluate relative maturity levels or, if not that, the only other implication could be people should not make comparisons.