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@vivify saidI’ve said no such thing , you’re making this up also.
This is the problem. There's a difference between saying civilian deaths are unavoidable in war vs. "they all deserve to die" or "they're all animals". This is what makes many of you, as Shav said, monsters.
The Arab nations surrounding Israel HAVE said “they all deserve to die”… Will you admit that that makes them “monsters”?
@sh76 saidAfter today's events, how would you say that's working out?
===This is not going to end well for anyone.===
Although I would have agreed with this prediction a couple of months ago, it's actually looking more and more like it might.
Whenever you fight an organization, the ideal way to do it is always to decapitate. Fighting it from the ground up is much harder. It's at least possible that Hezbollah will be rendered almost incapable ...[text shortened]... might make a quiet decision that it no longer wants to focus so hard on war by proxy against Israel.
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@divegeester saidI'm not saying you specifically. I'm referring to a large and very vocal amount of the pro-Isreal crowd.
I’m doing not such thing, you’re making it up.
For example, Rajk or Mott. Or that Florida Congresswoman who said "all of them" when asked how more Palestinians need to die.
They don't argue merely that civilian death is inevitable; they argue that civilian death is deserved; that Israel has a right to sexually assault prisoners, which Israeli lawmakers have claimed.
It would be different if they just claimed civilian death was unavoidable. But they revel in the of civilians dying, including children. That's the real problem, which is endemic with right-wingers.
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@divegeester saidhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/at-least-8-dead-after-israeli-bombs-hit-gazas-al-rantisi-pediatric-hospital-reports-say
No I wouldn’t deliberately bomb a children’s hospital.
Have you some evidence that Israel “deliberately” bombed a children’s hospital?
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@vivify saidWell take to them then pal.
I'm not saying you specifically. I'm referring to a large and very vocal amount of the pro-Isreal crowd.
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@divegeester saidHe certainly did nothing of the sort. Neither did anyone post about the recent Hezbollah bombing of Druze Jews in the Golan Heights where 12 school children died.
I think you’re on the wrong side of the equation.
I don’t remember you posting about “Palestinian Hamas monsters” after October 7th last year.
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@sonhouse saidNo, Sky News said Iraq attacking US airbases.
@divegeester
You mean US attacking THEIR air bases? Iraq bases.
They could have said it wrong, or I could have heard it wrong. But I don’t think I did.
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@divegeester saidFrom the link I gave you:
Sorry… when I said “evidence it was deliberate” … I kind of meant “evidence it was deliberate”
"Since Oct. 7, Israel has repeatedly insisted that some of Hamas’ members have gone into hiding in hospitals"
That's what Israel is using to justify deliberately bombing children's hospitals.
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@vivify saidThat isn’t “evidence” that Israel “deliberately” bombed a children’s hospital.
From the link I gave you:
"Since Oct. 7, Israel has repeatedly insisted that some of Hamas’ members have gone into hiding in hospitals"
That's what Israel is using to justify deliberately bombing children's hospitals.
Methinks you sympathise with the islamics way too much old boy.
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@vivify saidThat is exactly what Hamas is doing and this has been verified by many independent sources and by Gazans themselves.
From the link I gave you:
"Since Oct. 7, Israel has repeatedly insisted that some of Hamas’ members have gone into hiding in hospitals"
That's what Israel is using to justify deliberately bombing children's hospitals.
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@vivify saidYes I did.
You've said you approve of terrorism against terrorists, right? By your logic, what should happen if those terrorists are Israelis?
Do Jewish terrorists in the West Bank deserve to die?
This is where your logic tumbles, crashes and burns. You are unwilling to condemn Jewish terrorists, proving your statements are fallacious.
People who kill terrorists are good decent people.
People who kill murderers are good decent people.
People who kill pedophiles are good decent people.
People who kill rapists are good decent people.
None of them are called murderers or terrorists. Its all about who is the perpetrator. The Jews who abused the Gazan prisoner/s, are not terrorists. The Gazans in captivity were terrorists. They deserve death.
I dont know why this is such a problem for some people to understand.