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Is the US a democracy ?  Should it be ?

Is the US a democracy ? Should it be ?

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@mott-the-hoople said
you need to answer the question of murdering unborn babies
No, no one cares about that anymore. Kill 'em. But he DOES have to answer this 51/49 really complicated question I just posed to him. He won't.

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@mott-the-hoople said
you need to answer the question of murdering unborn babies
Some call it abortion.
Some call it murdering unborn babies.

I prefer to call it reproductive management !!

I personally don't agree with ending a pregnancy in the 9th month except to save the life of a mother.
I don't agree with calling it life begins at conception.

And for those who walk around crying reproductive management increases sexual promiscuity, those people can just re-insert their heads back up their rear ends.

Find something that works in the middle and let's move forward.

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@averagejoe1 said
No, no one cares about that anymore. Kill 'em. But he DOES have to answer this 51/49 really complicated question I just posed to him. He won't.
Just picking up on your 51-49 argument.....what's your point ??
Is the argument that in an election, one side gets 51% and the other 49% ?
So you are saying that the 51% shouldn't tell the 49% how to live ??

Fine....so what's your solution ?
Give the power to the 49% ??
Because that is what Jan 6th was all about, wasn't it ??

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@mghrn55 said
Some call it abortion.
Some call it murdering unborn babies.

I prefer to call it reproductive management !!

I personally don't agree with ending a pregnancy in the 9th month except to save the life of a mother.
I don't agree with calling it life begins at conception.

And for those who walk around crying reproductive management increases sexual promiscuity, those pe ...[text shortened]... ir heads back up their rear ends.

Find something that works in the middle and let's move forward.
Sure. Even conservative me,I will give these people who, by my definition want to get pregnant, a chance to get out of it!!! Do you think 3 weeks? Plenty of time to think it over, be it changing their mind about having a child, or be it a surprise that they are pregnant. Whatever, you are right, let us get over it,,,,in 3 weeks. Get an abortion, or the child lives.
See? I can be reasonable. Hey, as to the 9 month abortion, would you really be comfortable around a ghoulish doctor who could rip and kill the child?. You know, chat with him at the church picnic? I didn't think so.

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@averagejoe1 said
Sure. Even conservative me,I will give these people who, by my definition want to get pregnant, a chance to get out of it!!! Do you think 3 weeks? Plenty of time to think it over, be it changing their mind about having a child, or be it a surprise that they are pregnant. Whatever, you are right, let us get over it,,,,in 3 weeks. Get an abortion, or the child lives. ...[text shortened]... could rip and kill the child?. You know, chat with him at the church picnic? I didn't think so.
You must be stupid.
Your first sentence......women who want to get pregnant now want to get out of it.....
What ?? What ??
Abortions happen because the woman didn't want to get pregnant !!!
Isn't that the main point of abortions.
That is the biggest reason for the abortion.
As too the 3 weeks, it is already a fact that women don't know yet that they are pregnant.
I think a reasonable time frame can be arrived after consulting with science.
Running around telling women they should have kept their legs closed (Mott) isn't an answer.
Teaching people, usually in church, that sex is immoral isn't the answer.
The Dems and GOP keep moving apart instead of coming together.
Maybe the problem is that the religious right won't want to be part of the middle ground.

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@mghrn55 said
Just picking up on your 51-49 argument.....what's your point ??
Is the argument that in an election, one side gets 51% and the other 49% ?
So you are saying that the 51% shouldn't tell the 49% how to live ??

Fine....so what's your solution ?
Give the power to the 49% ??
Because that is what Jan 6th was all about, wasn't it ??
No, no. You must have sped-read my posts, many of them. They are saying that it is mob-like for 51% of a group to control the other 49%^. I'm saying that the 49% never even have a Voice. If we were in charge of all houses and Presidency, would you like for 51% of repubs to control every vote, or do you think it might be a bit more civil to have a fairly-weighted result in making a big decision. See my post above about a 2/3 vote being required in MANY settings, like condominiums. Why do you think that is?

In a few instances, the Constitution requres 2/3. Why is that? Why not 51%. Ponder that and see if we can have a fair discussion. Why isn't Every vote a 'majority rule' vote.
In a condominium vote, if a 2/3 is required, the Board STILL wants a super majority, more than 2/3, just to leave no question as to the wishes of those affected . And hey, it avoids meanness and consternation, ruined friendships.
And for the record, I, AvJoe, have No IDEA what Jan 6 is about, so can't answer you there. Apparently neither does the commison as they can't put their finger on anything. If they had, SHouse would have mentioned it!

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@mghrn55 said
You must be stupid.
Your first sentence......women who want to get pregnant now want to get out of it.....
What ?? What ??
Abortions happen because the woman didn't want to get pregnant !!!
Isn't that the main point of abortions.
That is the biggest reason for the abortion.
As too the 3 weeks, it is already a fact that women don't know yet that they are pregnant.
I ...[text shortened]... together.
Maybe the problem is that the religious right won't want to be part of the middle ground.
I have often proven that they want to get pregnant. No need to re-hash it, but they know what makes them pregnant....right? They know they take a risk, right? So, it is not an accident. So, they think 'this could make me pregnant, I will deal with it if I get pregnant'. So if they turn up pregnant, they must have been prepared for it. I f I bet on a horse and it loses, I knew I could lose. She lost.
As to the 'main point of abortions ' dont make me laugh. Geez.

Then you say to NOT tell kids in High School to abstain? And what in the hell have dems, repubs and religion got to do with raising families? And with personal choices? And you didn't mention govveerrnnnnnment. Geez. Zero in on personal choice, will you?

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@averagejoe1 said
I have often proven that they want to get pregnant. No need to re-hash it, but they know what makes them pregnant....right? They know they take a risk, right? So, it is not an accident. So, they think 'this could make me pregnant, I will deal with it if I get pregnant'. So if they turn up pregnant, they must have been prepared for it. I f I bet on a horse and it loses, I ...[text shortened]... choices? And you didn't mention govveerrnnnnnment. Geez. Zero in on personal choice, will you?
Fukking retard.

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@shavixmir said
Fukking retard.
LOL....LOL....LOL..... 😆😆😆😆
How does one expect to have an intelligent debate with that moron ?
Maybe just the 2 word response does the trick. Till it gets removed..

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@shavixmir said
None of that diminishes the definition of democracy.

My God, wat a gorgeous sentence to say out loud, by the way.
No country is a democracy that has a news media that ignores the next two most popular third party candidates and excludes them from debates. You might as well just ban them from running. The result is the same.

A manipulated democracy is not really a democracy.

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@mott-the-hoople said
you need to answer the question of murdering unborn babies
No I don’t because they are unwanted and unsolicited foetuses not unborn babies. My children were unborn babies and then to our joy they were born.
We also experienced an unwanted and unsolicited foetus due to a faulty birth control which we terminated for the sake of our actual children.
As ever you people talk from a cesspit of ignorance and spite.

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@averagejoe1 said
I have often proven that they want to get pregnant. No need to re-hash it, but they know what makes them pregnant....right? They know they take a risk, right? So, it is not an accident. So, they think 'this could make me pregnant, I will deal with it if I get pregnant'. So if they turn up pregnant, they must have been prepared for it. I f I bet on a horse and it loses, I ...[text shortened]... choices? And you didn't mention govveerrnnnnnment. Geez. Zero in on personal choice, will you?
You freaking ignoramus you have never proven a single thing in all your pathetic basement dwelling smelly existence.
If you want to know why the right to choose must exist have a look in the mirror and see an individual who’s parents clearly never loved or wanted him or her but had them anyway.

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@kevcvs57 said
You freaking ignoramus you have never proven a single thing in all your pathetic basement dwelling smelly existence.
If you want to know why the right to choose must exist have a look in the mirror and see an individual who’s parents clearly never loved or wanted him or her but had them anyway.
Answer me this, then. I am saying a woman wants to get pregnant, because she is taking a chance, with intercourse, to become pregnant.
Kev, if she does not want to get pregnant.......if she does not want to get pregnant,....she would avoid intercourse.
So, she chooses to have intercourse and chances pregnancy, or,
if she does NOT WANT to get pregnant, she chooses no intercourse.
You can hardly say that she does not want to get pregnant if she chooses to have intercourse. It can make her pregnant. Whew

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@averagejoe1 said
Answer me this, then. I am saying a woman wants to get pregnant, because she is taking a chance, with intercourse, to become pregnant.
Kev, if she does not want to get pregnant.......if she does not want to get pregnant,....she would avoid intercourse.
So, she chooses to have intercourse and chances pregnancy, or,
if she does NOT WANT to get pregnant, s ...[text shortened]... she does not want to get pregnant if she chooses to have intercourse. It can make her pregnant. Whew
No joe a woman is an equal human being and her libido cannot and should not be restricted to child birth.
Like men she should take reasonable measures to avoid impregnation during intercourse, if for no other reason than her own health outcomes, but wether through human error or technical failures of birth control measures she maintains the right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy.
Are you implying that in a relationship that only plan to have 3 children the couple should only have sexual intercourse 3 times?
You know your a blathering halfwit don’t ya joe

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If the USA has a democracy why do we always end up with such unpopular POTUS candidates?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-09-29/polling-americans-give-no-confidence-vote-rigged-two-party-system

Democracies are supposed to give you a choice between candidates you like, not a choice between candidates you don't like. The news media election meddles, that is why. They keep giving generous news coverage to unpopular candidates that will serve the wealthy and screw the poor.

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