@rajk999 saidYeah your lying again Palestinians have been pushing for a two state solution for quite a long time
No such thing as a 2SS any more. Israel was always interested in doing that, but not after this round of hostilities. The Palestinians from the very start in 1948 said there will be no such thing and all the land is theirs. Surveys done recently during this war shows that about 90% of Gazans support a 2SS, but only as a temporary measure leading eventually to full Palestinian country from the river to the sea.
So more war and bloodshed is in their future.
@kevcvs57 saidYou cannot read. Yes they are pushing for a that as a temporary solution. They eventually say they will fight for full 100% Palestinian state in the Land of Palestine from the river to the sea. They want full control of that area with NO JEWISH GOVERNMENT.
Yeah your lying again Palestinians have been pushing for a two state solution for quite a long time
Well now after this OCT 7th massacre, they are going to get nothing but death and annihilation ... well deserved too. No pity from me. Dont cry now.
@congruent saidYour English is poor. Are you really British?
Are you illiterate or what? Are you really a chartered anything or involved in IT? Your chunking all these insults and not actually contributing to the debate.
A chartered troll? Narcissistic PD?
Your a spineless internet troll disengaged from reality.
Again our chartered troll has nothing to contribute to the debate.
Narcissistic PD is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others.
@congruent saidI think everyone is impressed by your contribution ... lol 😆
Again our chartered troll has nothing to contribute to the debate.
Narcissistic PD is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance. They need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them. People with this disorder may lack the ability to understand or care about the feelings of others.
@congruent saidForgiveness and grace are the only solutions, otherwise, it is a circle of violence never-ending.
This situation is one big merry-go-round, fueling the conflict, talking about peace, providing military aid when will it end?
US >> Israel needs to show restraint or be more clinical.
US >> Signs of Billions of USD and provides military aid package for Israel
Israel >> We are going after Hamas
Israel >> Bombards Gaza with F-35, tanks, shelling, snipers
Israel ...[text shortened]... an >> provides funding and Support for Hamas
Gaza >> Fire rockets at Israel
Back to square one
@kevcvs57 saidThe PA, perhaps, not Hamas.
Yeah your lying again Palestinians have been pushing for a two state solution for quite a long time
Even the PA position has unrealistic demands such as the "right of return" and Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital.
@sh76 saidThe right of return is unrealistic?
The PA, perhaps, not Hamas.
Even the PA position has unrealistic demands such as the "right of return" and Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital.
After beinf ethnically cleansed, you don’t think folk have a right to return to their homes?
Which was the PA? The one led by Arafat? The conflict is 75+ years old, for those who say let there be a permanent solution before there is a ceasefire, how likely is there to be a solution?
Some of Israel's Arab neighbours apparently tried to warn Israel of an impending attack. I don't understand the dynamics of the regional politics etc but surely don't some in the Palestinian/Arab side want peace?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/28/[WORD TOO LONG].
Israel’s military and intelligence officials were given a highly detailed warning that Hamas was actively training to take over kibbutzim on the Gaza border and overrun military posts with the aim of inflicting substantial fatalities, according to reports in the Israeli media.
The claim made by Israel’s Channel 12 on Monday evening was based on leaked emails from the Israeli military’s 8200 cyber-intelligence unit discussing the warnings.
Those emails revealed that a senior officer who reviewed the intelligence considered the danger of a massive surprise attack by Hamas across the Gaza border to be “an imaginary scenario”.
@shavixmir saidThat's not the way world history works.
The right of return is unrealistic?
After beinf ethnically cleansed, you don’t think folk have a right to return to their homes?
When they give me back my grandfather's flat in Berlin, I'll be more sympathetic to the "right of return."
@congruent saidThe catch with intelligence is that you get so much of it, and so much of it turns out not to happen, that when something does happen, there's always some morsel of intelligence that could have given it away.
Which was the PA? The one led by Arafat? The conflict is 75+ years old, for those who say let there be a permanent solution before there is a ceasefire, how likely is there to be a solution?
Some of Israel's Arab neighbours apparently tried to warn Israel of an impending attack. I don't understand the dynamics of the regional politics etc but surely don't some in the Pal ...[text shortened]... e danger of a massive surprise attack by Hamas across the Gaza border to be “an imaginary scenario”.
The PA is led by Abbas whom I regard as a fundamentally reasonable person. That he and Olmert couldn't close a deal in 2008 is a historical tragedy.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/abbas-never-said-no-to-2008-peace-deal-says-former-pm-olmert/
@vivify saidActually, Israel is probably the least naturally sympathetic to "right of return" of any country on Earth, considering that Jews have been expelled and shuttled around (when not massacred) for millennia and nobody has ever offered the Jews the "right of return."
Is there any country in the world who should more sympathetic to "right of return" than Israel?
When we have the "right to return" to Babylonia, Persia, Spain, Portugal, Russia, England, France, Morocco, Syria, Egypt, along with the countless other places from which we've been driven, come back to me about the Palestinians' right to return to Jaffa.
@vivify saidNo right of return. They are not returning to live in peace, and be upstanding citizens. They are returning to kill Jews, join suicide squads and basically make a nuisance of themselves.
Is there any country in the world who should more sympathetic to "right of return" than Israel?