@sh76 saidThat's their excuse for stealing Palestinian settlements in the West Bank for decades, long before Hamas?
When that other group wants to destroy you, allowing them back into places from which they'll have a better chance to destroy you is not smart policy.
MPs are debating a motion in Parliament put forward by the Scottish National Party (SNP) calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza
House Speaker Lindsay Hoyle chose both the government and the Labour Party's amendments to the motion, breaking convention on not selecting opposition amendments.
Labour's amendment calls for an “immediate humanitarian ceasefire” while a separate government amendment calls for an “immediate humanitarian pause”.
@sh76 saidhttps://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/06/israel-occupation-50-years-of-dispossession/
I don't know what you're talking about. What "Palestinian settlements" were stolen and when?
Israel’s Occupation: 50 Years of Dispossession
For half a century, Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip has resulted in systematic human rights violations against Palestinians living there.
Since the occupation first began in June 1967, Israel’s ruthless policies of land confiscation, illegal settlement and dispossession, coupled with rampant discrimination, have inflicted immense suffering on Palestinians, depriving them of their basic rights.
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@vivify saidYou're confusing two things. The Israeli settlements in the West Bank are all built on what was previously empty desert or brushland. They may call that illegal settlements or land grabs, but none of them have dispossessed "Palestinian settlements."
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/06/israel-occupation-50-years-of-dispossession/
Israel’s Occupation: 50 Years of Dispossession
For half a century, Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip has resulted in systematic human rights violations against Palestinians living there.
Since the occupation fi ...[text shortened]... ion, have inflicted immense suffering on Palestinians, depriving them of their basic rights.
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@congruent saidAnd I ask them as well:
MPs are debating a motion in Parliament put forward by the Scottish National Party (SNP) calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza
House Speaker Lindsay Hoyle chose both the government and the Labour Party's amendments to the motion, breaking convention on not selecting opposition amendments.
Labour's amendment calls for an “immediate humanitarian ceasefire” while a separate government amendment calls for an “immediate humanitarian pause”.
You want Parliament to vote for a ceasefire.
Fine.
How are YOU going to ensure that Hamas doesn't go right back to planning another 10/7 after the ceasefire?
@sh76 saidThanks for sharing, shows how complicated the situation is but also that with Abbas or someone similar in charge, peace may one day be viable.
The catch with intelligence is that you get so much of it, and so much of it turns out not to happen, that when something does happen, there's always some morsel of intelligence that could have given it away.
The PA is led by Abbas whom I regard as a fundamentally reasonable person. That he and Olmert couldn't close a deal in 2008 is a historical tragedy.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/abbas-never-said-no-to-2008-peace-deal-says-former-pm-olmert/
@sh76 saidIsraelis have forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes (or outright destroyed them). They're not simply moving in, they are taking Palestinians homes and buildings by force.
You're confusing two things. The Israeli settlements in the West Bank are all built on what was previously empty desert or brushland. They may call that illegal settlements or land grabs, but none of them have dispossessed "Palestinian settlements."
This has nothing to do with Hamas or national security. It's robbery.
@congruent said.. and the wind blows, the dogs bark, the donkeys bray and Israel will continue to move on down the road and defend itself from those cockroaches that you support.
MPs are debating a motion in Parliament put forward by the Scottish National Party (SNP) calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza
House Speaker Lindsay Hoyle chose both the government and the Labour Party's amendments to the motion, breaking convention on not selecting opposition amendments.
Labour's amendment calls for an “immediate humanitarian ceasefire” while a separate government amendment calls for an “immediate humanitarian pause”.
Nobody cares about the opinion on the British. Know your place.
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@vivify saidIsraelis don't go in and throw Palestinians out of their homes to take them over. They've bulldozed houses that belonged to suicide bombers and the like, but again, you're confusing two things.
Israelis have forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes (or outright destroyed them). They're not simply moving in, they are taking Palestinians homes and buildings by force.
This has nothing to do with Hamas or national security. It's robbery.
@sh76 saidSpeaking of whoppers: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israel-ramps-up-demolition-of-palestinian-homes-in-jerusalem
Israelis don't go in and throw Palestinians out of their homes to take them over. They've bulldozed houses that belonged to suicide bombers and the like, but again, you're confusing two things.
@sh76 saidIsrael has demolished over 10,000 Palestinian owned structures in the West Bank since 2009.https://www.ochaopt.org/data/demolition
Israelis don't go in and throw Palestinians out of their homes to take them over. They've bulldozed houses that belonged to suicide bombers and the like, but again, you're confusing two things.