@shavixmir saidYeah .. thats what the Palestinians were banking on. Tough lesson to learn.
YOU DON'T FUKKING SHOOT CHILDREN.
No matter what the criminals are doing.
You shoot my children. I shoot yours.
@vivify saidThis is what I was trying to explain.
They were.
And by bulldozing Palestinian homes and buildings.
And by illegally moving into annexed land which is a war crime.
"bulldozing Palestinian homes and buildings" as a punitive measure for those homes that harbored terrorists is ONE thing.
"moving into annexed land" is ANOTHER thing.
They have nothing to do with each other, so please stop conflating them.
The WB settlements are on land captured from Jordan in 1967 that Jordan has no interests in getting back. Whether moving into erstwhile empty land in this area and building towns is or ought to be illegal is debatable, I get it. But you made it sound as though Israel destroys or expels Palestinian villages in order to move into them.
They don't.
https://newsday.co.tt/2023/11/08/browne-caricom-to-meet-on-gaza-israel-conflict-today/
Head of Government Business in the Senate and Caricom and Foreign Affairs Minister Dr Amery Browne said he would be advocating strongly on the Palestine/Israel conflict during a meeting of the Caricom Council for Foreign and Community Relations scheduled for Wednesday.
Browne was responding to a matter on the adjournment of the Senate on Tuesday raised by Independent Senator Anthony Vieira over assistance for nationals in the Middle East who are at risk from the escalating conflict between Gaza and Israel.
During his contribution, Vieira said he was horrified by the horrific pain and suffering being endured on both sides.
“Most of us would like to see the UN or a group of nations interceding as peacemaker on humanitarian and moral grounds, with a view to offering a viable path to peace.”
He believed Israel had a right to exist as a state and countries had a right to defend themselves. However, he said there was such a thing as excessive self-defence, and with the measures being carried out by Israel, including indiscriminate killing and displacement of Palestinians, Israel risked pivoting from the role of victim to that of oppressor.
@sh76 saidWhat I first said to you was that Israel was stealing Palestinian land. Moving into annexed land is one way they do so, bulldozing their homes and buildings is another, since the Israelis eventually take over those areas as well.
But you made it sound as though Israel destroys or expels Palestinian villages in order to move into them.
They don't.
They also forcibly evicted Palestinians:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestinian-absentees-property-law-eviction-homes-explained
"the Absentees' Property Law is one of Israel's founding texts, granting the state the power to confiscate and impound Palestinian properties and assets that they were forced to leave behind in 1948"
Israel recently ruled against the law but that was after decades of this being enforced.
Viv, let me ask you a question.
Say the Sinaloa drug cartel (with or without Mexican government support; that doesn't matter), kept using more and more violent methods to get drugs into San Diego to the point where clashes broke out, and eventually a war started. The US invaded and occupied Tiujana and a sizeable tract of land to the east of it.
Then, say the Mexican government said "screw it; you can keep it. We're sick of dealing with these cartels. Have fun administering the area." The people of Tiujana wanted their autonomy but they couldn't control the drug trade, and clashes between Sinaloa and US soldiers erupted from time to time. In fact, say Sinaloa carried out a long series of terrorist bombings in San Diego, forcing the US to send police forces into Tijuana to neutralize the threats.
Throw into this a situation where the housing prices in San Diego skyrocket and someone says "Hey, there's all this empty, flat and fertile land around Rancho Dominguez. Why don't we build a town there? And so they go out there with their hammers and nails and build a town that houses 500 people.
Illegal? I honestly don't know. But a war crime? Something that deserves the faux horror of those looking for a pretext to hate the US? Hardly.
@vivify saidAlmost all countries have some version of a Absentees Property Law, where if a person is dead, or has disappeared, or just cannot be found, neither are there inheritors, over several decades, then the property reverts to the state.
What I first said to you was that Israel was stealing Palestinian land. Moving into annexed land is one way they do so, bulldozing their homes and buildings is another, since the Israelis eventually take over those areas as well.
They also forcibly evicted Palestinians:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestinian-absentees-property-law-eviction-homes-explai ...[text shortened]... 948[/i]"
Israel recently ruled against the law but that was after decades of this being enforced.
@congruent saidWhat does the opinion of a man from a small country of less than 1.5 M people have to do with this issue? Clearly you seem to have a problem with authority. You look up to, idolize and probably worship authority figures.
https://newsday.co.tt/2023/11/08/browne-caricom-to-meet-on-gaza-israel-conflict-today/
Head of Government Business in the Senate and Caricom and Foreign Affairs Minister Dr Amery Browne said he would be advocating strongly on the Palestine/Israel conflict during a meeting of the Caricom Council for Foreign and Community Relations scheduled for Wednesday.
Browne was re ...[text shortened]... d displacement of Palestinians, Israel risked pivoting from the role of victim to that of oppressor.
@sh76 saidThat analogy doesn't describe what actually happened one bit.
Viv, let me ask you a question.
Say the Sinaloa drug cartel (with or without Mexican government support; that doesn't matter), kept using more and more violent methods to get drugs into San Diego to the point where clashes broke out, and eventually a war started. The US invaded and occupied Tiujana and a sizeable tract of land to the east of it.
Then, say the Mexican gove ...[text shortened]... rime? Something that deserves the faux horror of those looking for a pretext to hate the US? Hardly.
Israel annexed the West Bank. That means they took it over by military force, and have since evicted women and children. Israel didn't stumble onto unused land like you're implying.
@rajk999 saidOh, quoting the old Ottoman law again, are we?
Almost all countries have some version of a Absentees Property Law, where if a person is dead, or has disappeared, or just cannot be found, neither are there inheritors, over several decades, then the property reverts to the state.
Fukk wit fascist kunt.
@congruent saidWho cares ?
Have you forgotten you claim to be from Trinidad? (Relevance of Trinidad's views on the situation).
First you were speaking like you are the representative of the Isreali govt, then when its apparent you're not even Jewish you now claim to be Trinidadian.
@vivify saidIsrael has not annexed the West Bank (except for East Jerusalem). And they took it from Jordan, who does not want it back.
That analogy doesn't describe what actually happened one bit.
Israel annexed the West Bank. That means they took it over by military force, and have since evicted women and children. Israel didn't stumble onto unused land like you're implying.