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@jj-adams said
No.
He didn't do that, why would you make such a claim?
https://www.vox.com/2017/2/2/14488448/stream-protection-rule

Trump just killed a rule restricting coal companies from dumping waste in streams

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@vivify said
https://www.vox.com/2017/2/2/14488448/stream-protection-rule

Trump just killed a rule restricting coal companies from dumping waste in streams
Yeah, right. A lie soon becomes believed

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@averagejoe1 said
Yeah, right. A lie soon becomes believed
Of course, every news outlet in the world is lying.

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@averagejoe1 said
I would not say that calming the masses is a political stunt. If he did not keep the libs calm, why, they would pick up their signs and bother the hell out of people.
If I learned that someone was about to set fire to a theater, I would not holler 'everyone run!!!!!! We are about to be burned alive!" No, I would calmly announce that we have discovered a hazard, ev ...[text shortened]... le. Do not forget your belongings". And That would be with impending doom in the next few minutes.
You called it a political stunt. A lie.

The worst part is everyone knew at the time that he lied to our faces. So - while I agree that's what he was trying to do - it actually had the opposite effect of calming the masses. He was scared about it , went into self preservation mode, and told the whole world that he had no idea what to do about it.

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@averagejoe1 said
Yeah, right. A lie soon becomes believed
All of his "accomplishments" are lies. All he ever does is lie.

How'd you like that supposed note from his doctor, saying he was in excellent shape?

He wrote that note. Took him 5 minutes in the back of a limo.

Yet here you are, believing every lie, hook, line and sinker.

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@suzianne said
All of his "accomplishments" are lies. All he ever does is lie.

How'd you like that supposed note from his doctor, saying he was in excellent shape?

He wrote that note. Took him 5 minutes in the back of a limo.

Yet here you are, believing every lie, hook, line and sinker.
Excellent shape for his age maybe?

Tell us a couple of his accomplishments, which were lies. It will make up for you’re not ever having told us any Tucker Carlson lies.

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@averagejoe1 said
Excellent shape for his age maybe?

Tell us a couple of his accomplishments, which were lies. It will make up for you’re not ever having told us any Tucker Carlson lies.
The list you posted are misleading half truths.

For example he says illegal border crossings were down in the area where new wall was built. But the number of illegal aliens in the US increased over the same period while trump was president. The "accomplishment" was not effective towards the overall goal.

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@wildgrass said
The list you posted are misleading half truths.

For example he says illegal border crossings were down in the area where new wall was built. But the number of illegal aliens in the US increased over the same period while trump was president. The "accomplishment" was not effective towards the overall goal.
Half truths? So you take 1/2 of the statements and change them around so that the true statement now becomes a 1/2 truth statement.???
I don’t get it. Is this a new liberal Dodge? I mean, what is it?

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@averagejoe1 said
Half truths? So you take 1/2 of the statements and change them around so that the true statement now becomes a 1/2 truth statement.???
I don’t get it. Is this a new liberal Dodge? I mean, what is it?
Not half a statement, a half truth. A piece of the equation. Say you're trying to lose weight. After one month you are heavier than you were last month. But instead of saying this (the truth), you say that your "accomplishment" is that you ate more vegetables (the half truth). It obscures reality.

A boxer loses a fight, but his "accomplishment" is that he got a few good punches in. Still lost, though.

This is what the Trump accomplishment list is. The federal budget was a lot higher during the Trump years than it was under Obama. He went 8 trillion over budget, in truth. Yet he lists series of "accomplishments" related to reducing the size of government. Some regulations were eliminated (the half truth). The spending went up a lot, so government got a lot bigger (the truth). Same with immigration. He stopped border crossings in a few places, but the overall number of illegal immigrants increased.

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Another half truth from the list in the OP:

"The S&P 500 and NASDAQ have repeatedly notched record highs."

Correct. But the lowest stock market drops *also* occurred during his presidency:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/274327/largest-single-day-losses-of-the-dow-jones-index/

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@wildgrass said
Not half a statement, a half truth. A piece of the equation. Say you're trying to lose weight. After one month you are heavier than you were last month. But instead of saying this (the truth), you say that your "accomplishment" is that you ate more vegetables (the half truth). It obscures reality.

A boxer loses a fight, but his "accomplishment" is that he got a few good ...[text shortened]... He stopped border crossings in a few places, but the overall number of illegal immigrants increased.
Well written i’ll play. Let’s say 25% are lies. That leaves80 accomplishments, Hell, you would cuss the Abraham Accords. So, that is 80 Trump.,,,,,I will sit here till I see 80 Biden’s. No lies please.

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I guess you willfully ignore the three cases he HAS been found guilty, Trump university, Trump charity, and the defamation case all found Trump guilty so I guess you figure those are just minor deals, nobody got hurt, right?

And of course the moment he is pronounced guilty in the more serious charges that is where you will move the goalpost yet again and just rationalize that one all away as a Biden witch hunt which they aren't but that doesn't matter to you even though Biden had ZERO to do with the indictments.

If Trump was a democrat and had these charges you would be calling for his head, screaming how terrible were his crimes and he is a traitor for showing top secret docs to billionaires and all that went with that.
But he is a repub and clearly in your mind, above the law so he gets a bye on anything he has already been found guilty of and will be found guilty of the rest and BTW, if and shudder when he becomes POTUS again he can't stop the Georgia charges, he can kill the fed ones only so he does not get a total get out of jail card free on all 91 counts.
AND even you will be taken aback at his total disregard for the constitution and implementing the insurrection act using our own military to quell protests which last I heard was allowed in our nations founding, what was that phrase again, oh yes, Freedom of assembly.

That will be out the window on day two of his presidency and you will find that ok because you will rationalize all his fascist plans as just the way it has to be, not caring he will reinstated that deal of ripping infants from moms arms at the border and putting yet more thousands of kids in cages, he LOVED that bit, him and his buddies died laughing at that and then going after Muslims, putting them on reservations, penal colonies, concentration camps, whatever you want to call them.

Pulling out of NATO, which you will applaud no doubt, kill SS, kill Obama care because he doesn't give a rats ass about common folk ONLY rich ones.
He will go after greatly extended POTUS powers to make himself effectively a dictator and extend his tenure till he dies.

This is what he already SAID he will do and I guess you think there is nothing wrong with destroying what the founding fathers carefully constructed in our constitution.

If and when that happens even after he dies, which I hope will be soon, there will be his sycophants ready to keep up his good work.
Also you don't seem to care that the rest of the planet outnumbers us some 20 to 1 and you figure SCREW the rest of the world, we can go it alone, we don't need ANYONE, is that future ok with you?

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
I guess you willfully ignore the three cases he HAS been found guilty, Trump university, Trump charity, and the defamation case all found Trump guilty so I guess you figure those are just minor deals, nobody got hurt, right?

And of course the moment he is pronounced guilty in the more serious charges that is where you will move the goalpost yet again and jus ...[text shortened]... e SCREW the rest of the world, we can go it alone, we don't need ANYONE, is that future ok with you?
May I ;suggest shorter screeds

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Trump is an illegal businessman and a fraud

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@AverageJoe1
Yet again refusing to even acknowledge his THREE frauds already adjudicated.
I know you have trouble reading more than two lines at a time. Your brain just has trouble with more than 40 words at a time, sorry.

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