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So tell me what you would find acceptable in a situation like this, what would you do? Are you assuming the shooter was a calm, balanced in all situations, fast thinking and trained in these situations? Or do you think he freaked out, didn’t know what the hell was going on except he wanted to live badly and someone was illegally trying to take that away from him plus others. Should he assume th ...[text shortened]... balanced robber, not going to shoot, drugs and on?? Flake on brother flake on join the real world.I’m sorry, I misread the thread and thought the robber dropped the gun and he picked it up and shot him. I didn’t watch the video, but in my opinion he shouldn’t have fired for risk to others in and outside plus possible loose return fire if he was fleeing away. At this point in this situation he should have left it for law enforcement. Jail time, I’m not sure, did he think he was protecting life or just wanted his stuff back, both, or other reasons? We’re all shots intentionally fired, shaking hands, nerves, fear etc.. It’s Texas, did he have a two stage trigger kit with very light pull weight that wouldn’t help in this case?? Lots of stuff, anyway I apologize again.
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@kevcvs57 saidNo, the Blacks won't feel differently. There are a lot of murderers in prison and it's perfectly respectable among criminals.
Black inmates might feel differently and this ‘warrior’ won’t have his gun to shoot the black inmates in the back with.
You have a very strange idea of what constitutes a warrior
These criminals in prison have to fight in huge formations face to face with knives and improvised breastplates made of magazines to protect themselves. If you don't like the word "warrior" fine exchange it with "fighter" or "torpedo" or "prison soldier" or any other number of synomyms.
Going to prison for a decade or so is bad enough no need to wish illegal torture on the man.
15 Jan 23
@jj-adams saidIf he were an undercover cop he'd shout "drop your weapon" before shooting in theory
He should have jumped up and shouted "Draw!" or something, like in a movie?
15 Jan 23
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The thing is the thief had a fake gun but nobody would know that when he is waving it around like the real thing in the heat of the moment. I would have still shot the SOB in the ass or foot just to bring him down and kill him if the gun was real and he started actual firing.
But it is part of US history now, the perp won't rob anyone ever again and no court costs involved.
@kevcvs57 saidWe'd need the services of a mutually agreed upon independent referee, someone that could determine an acceptable thresh hold of proof has been be met. Otherwise you'd keep raising the bar in order to welch on the bet. C'mon kev it's just a bit of fun and if your 'hypothesis' is valid 2k free money in your hand. If I can't prove my nationality to the satisfaction of a mutually agreed upon ref, it's yours $2000. We can make a gentlemans agreement can't we, a virtual handshake, a man's word, I know I'm good for it.
You can shove your 2000 dollars where sun doesn’t shine, I would be as likely to believe any evidence you produce as I am anything you say on this forum. If you want to prove your place of residence then you can just do it there’s no need for a bet
Being labelled a hypocrite by a poster who supports / fails to condemn another poster laughing at a video of an actual human b ...[text shortened]... ehood is still pretending to be a Libertarian when you are clearly a far right wing anti libertarian
kev "fails to condemn"
I can't go around condemning everything I don't agree with I'm already wasting too much time giving you lessons on what hypocrite means.
kev "feigning upset"
Never did that kev, I'm not upset about prison rape jokes, or shag doodys necrophilia anal incest jokes, or elimination of worthless scum jokes. Let them stand and let those that tell them be judged for them. So no 'feigning' here, just straight talk.
I'm beginning to understand the problem though, - you don't know what the word hypocrisy means.
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@sonhouse saidIf the gun was real all that would do is cause innocent life to be lost as neither of those points of impact disable his brain, shooting finger, or render him instantly unconscious. Unless you’re a calm proficient, practiced shooter good luck hitting the spots mentioned much less moving. If this terrible situation arises you better shoot to put down if you Have to pull you weapon.
@mike69
The thing is the thief had a fake gun but nobody would know that when he is waving it around like the real thing in the heat of the moment. I would have still shot the SOB in the ass or foot just to bring him down and kill him if the gun was real and he started actual firing.
But it is part of US history now, the perp won't rob anyone ever again and no court costs involved.
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@sonhouse saidYeah, shoot an armed man in the foot, that'll make him stop and reconsider.
@mike69
The thing is the thief had a fake gun but nobody would know that when he is waving it around like the real thing in the heat of the moment. I would have still shot the SOB in the ass or foot just to bring him down and kill him if the gun was real and he started actual firing.
But it is part of US history now, the perp won't rob anyone ever again and no court costs involved.
Not like he'd instantly shoot back at you.
Genius thinking.
15 Jan 23
I used to play first person shooters with a former Marine sniper. His influence got me used to shooting for the head. If I had a gun and decided to shoot the robber I probably would have aimed for the head and upper torso if my angle let me - considering the diner was sitting and the robber walking away a head shot might not be feasible.
I mean I normally wouldn't be armed in that situation but I can't condemn the man for the first four to eight shots.
It's that ninth one that he should not have fired that condemns him.
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@athousandyoung said??, put your thoughts to a real life, real feelings, scenario with all the unknowns. Now your shooting a small, smaller caliber Handgun with limited accuracy, now you’re family is injured or worse. Center mass for you good sir.
I used to play first person shooters with a former Marine sniper. His influence got me used to shooting for the head. If I had a gun and decided to shoot the robber I probably would have aimed for the head and upper torso if my angle let me - considering the diner was sitting and the robber walking away a head shot might not be feasible.
I mean I normally wouldn' ...[text shortened]... first four to eight shots.
It's that ninth one that he should not have fired that condemns him.
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@athousandyoung saidShooting for someone's head is retarded, it's harder than you think, especially on a moving target.
I used to play first person shooters with a former Marine sniper. His influence got me used to shooting for the head. If I had a gun and decided to shoot the robber I probably would have aimed for the head and upper torso if my angle let me - considering the diner was sitting and the robber walking away a head shot might not be feasible.
I mean I normally wouldn' ...[text shortened]... first four to eight shots.
It's that ninth one that he should not have fired that condemns him.
Games and movies are not the place to get your pistol tactics from..
16 Jan 23
@jj-adams saidYeah I'm no gunslinger
Shooting for someone's head is retarded, it's harder than you think, especially on a moving target.
Games and movies are not the place to get your pistol tactics from..
16 Jan 23
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That would be shot #1. If he turned towards me gun in hand he would not get off another shot, my shot WOULD be to kill.
You shoot a dude in the foot or leg he is going to be writhing around on the floor most likely. Unless you have one of those freaks so high on meth he doesn't even notice he has a couple bullets in him. I saw a video of a dude like that, totally crazed and it took a bunch of shots to bring him down but that thief was not that high.
16 Jan 23
@athousandyoung saidYeah because the US is just Colombia 🙄
No, the Blacks won't feel differently. There are a lot of murderers in prison and it's perfectly respectable among criminals.
These criminals in prison have to fight in huge formations face to face with knives and improvised breastplates made of magazines to protect themselves. If you don't like the word "warrior" fine exchange it with "fighter" or "torpedo" or "p ...[text shortened]... ube]
Going to prison for a decade or so is bad enough no need to wish illegal torture on the man.
You do tend toward hyperbole and stereotypes concerning this aspect of American culture.
If I was a black inmate and a white civilian who had done what this guy done to another black man I don’t think I’d give a toss who he was mixing with.
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@jj-adams saidI’m guessing you’ve never been shot in the foot, I I haven’t either but I’ve seen the after effects and the first thing is excruciating pain followed a swallow dive into shock, there’s a lot of small bones in the foot so there is very little to no chance of a flesh wound.
Yeah, shoot an armed man in the foot, that'll make him stop and reconsider.
Not like he'd instantly shoot back at you.
Genius thinking.