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no1marauder
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@metal-brain said
Negotiating with Democrats is what got him in this mess.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/no-ukraine-funds-mccarthy-throws-11th-hour-hail-mary-avert-shutdown
Promising right wing fanatics things he couldn't deliver got him into this mess, nor coming up with a deal which temporarily averted a government shutdown - which was supported by a large majority in the House.

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@no1marauder said
Promising right wing fanatics things he couldn't deliver got him into this mess, nor coming up with a deal which temporarily averted a government shutdown - which was supported by a large majority in the House.
Republicans are the majority in the house. Are you claiming some republicans would not have backed him up?

What have democrats gained from ousting McCarthy? Will they be happy with the next speaker of the house? I doubt it.

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@metal-brain said
Republicans are the majority in the house. Are you claiming some republicans would not have backed him up?

What have democrats gained from ousting McCarthy? Will they be happy with the next speaker of the house? I doubt it.
Was it Napoleon who supposedly said " Never interrupt your enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself?"

The Republicans are now bitterly fractured.

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@no1marauder said
Was it Napoleon who supposedly said " Never interrupt your enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself?"

The Republicans are now bitterly fractured.
LOL!

If the next speaker of the house is a democrat you can say you told me so.
Until then don't make me laugh.

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@metal-brain said
LOL!

If the next speaker of the house is a democrat you can say you told me so.
Until then don't make me laugh.
(Shrug) We'll see how it plays out but no Democrat believes they will get a Speaker before 2025 which the latest Republican clown show makes more likely.

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@metal-brain said
My point is that if he did he would have appeared to be a puppet of the democrats. Then all the republicans would have voted against him. He was doomed either way.

What have democrats gained from ousting McCarthy? Will they be happy with the next speaker of the house? I doubt it.
Haven’t you figured it out yet dummy the far right pro trump freedom caucus got rid if him because he managed to avoid the shut down that they wanted more than any deal no matter how sweet it seemed to the average Republican

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@no1marauder said
(Shrug) We'll see how it plays out but no Democrat believes they will get a Speaker before 2025 which the latest Republican clown show makes more likely.
What is your source of information?

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@metal-brain said
What is your source of information?
Common sense.

Try it sometime.

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@metal-brain said
My point is that if he did he would have appeared to be a puppet of the democrats. Then all the republicans would have voted against him. He was doomed either way.

What have democrats gained from ousting McCarthy? Will they be happy with the next speaker of the house? I doubt it.
MY point is that McCarthy set himself up to fail, by changing the rules for bringing a motion to vacate. He signed his own death warrant when he agreed to Gaetz’s demand that a single aggrieved person would be able to force a vote of no confidence. That was Gaetz’s condition for voting for McCarthy to assume the Speakership last time, and it was exactly that which sank McCarthy this time. McCarthy has only himself to blame that he does not have consensus in his own party; he’s allowed a radical faction to use extortion to get what it wants.

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@moonbus said
MY point is that McCarthy set himself up to fail, by changing the rules for bringing a motion to vacate. He signed his own death warrant when he agreed to Gaetz’s demand that a single aggrieved person would be able to force a vote of no confidence. That was Gaetz’s condition for voting for McCarthy to assume the Speakership last time, and it was exactly that which sank McCart ...[text shortened]... ve consensus in his own party; he’s allowed a radical faction to use extortion to get what it wants.
Sure, McCarthy promised certain things and did not follow through with that promise. He is a lying POS and Gaetz called him on his BS. McCarthy proved himself to be an establishment tool.

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@no1marauder said
Common sense.

Try it sometime.
I will assume you made it up and it is complete BS.
Better luck next time.

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@moonbus said
MY point is that McCarthy set himself up to fail, by changing the rules for bringing a motion to vacate. He signed his own death warrant when he agreed to Gaetz’s demand that a single aggrieved person would be able to force a vote of no confidence. That was Gaetz’s condition for voting for McCarthy to assume the Speakership last time, and it was exactly that which sank McCart ...[text shortened]... ve consensus in his own party; he’s allowed a radical faction to use extortion to get what it wants.
Extra, Extra, read all about it... From what I hear the rumblings are this rule will need changing before anyone else will willingly stick their neck up above the parapet.

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Changing rules is what Congress does. Now all of a sudden you have a problem with it? Do you know how long changing rules has been going on?

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@kmax87 said
Extra, Extra, read all about it... From what I hear the rumblings are this rule will need changing before anyone else will willingly stick their neck up above the parapet.
Looking at him go, I did wonder given that it took 15 votes before he was confirmed speaker of the house, that he might have been given more than one vote to cut him down, but dems the breaks I s'pose

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@metal-brain said
I will assume you made it up and it is complete BS.
Better luck next time.
I assume you're an ignorant, obnoxious POS with no idea of how legislative strategy works.

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