No farms, no food, no future

@Metal-Brain said
In a rural area a garden may require fencing to keep out the deer unless you only grow garlic or something else deer do not like to eat. That is one of the upsides to urban farming. You don't have a deer problem in the city.

Fencing is expensive. Deer can jump a very high fence in the day time, but they don't at night when they usually raid your garden.

@A-Unique-Nickname said
I've grown some of my own food in the past yes but now it's impossible, being a homeless bum.

And it doesn't require as land as you think, have you ever heard of urban farm? People in apartments with no 'land' creating space for food production. But for year round self sufficiently of course it's extremely difficult, and mass farming is needed but not at the dam ...[text shortened]... make a profit. Something that if we're going to live on this planet for much longer needs to change.

@Cliff-Mashburn said
A family of 4 would need almost a hundred acres of land to be self-sufficient and grow their own food. Growing some vegetables on top of your apartment would be enough for an occasional salad.
"According to the Food and Agricultural Organization, the minimum amount of land needed for self-sustainable food in North America or Western Europe is 17 acres per person. This number assumes absolutely no land degradation, crop failures, or waste."

Where I live, in southwestern Ontario (Canada) because of our “close” proximity to a major corridor between Toronto and the USA (Detroit) there are some big time manufacturing concerns setting up shop here. Now these same manufacturers not only need land but folks to work in those plants. As a result, (oh and we are a cash crop farming, for the most part, area) a lot of very good farm land is being gobbled up to build these plants and subdivisions. Add the fact that acreage pricing is going through the roof and the farms around here are in the 300+ acre ranges, it’s hard for a farmer not to be tempted to sell, oh and a lot of those same farms are being run by, probably the last generations to want to continue farming. The outlook is not especially promising for…well farming.

@divegeester said
The bottom line is that farmers across Europe are protesting at EU over regulation.

Why can’t you see there’s a big problem.

@wildgrass said
I think you are framing the problem incorrectly. The protests are not the problem. The problem is that western farming practices are not profitable, and they need to adjust their methods. They don't want to adjust, because change is hard. So they protest.

The US solution is bad too. After tariffs Trump's administration just decided to pay the farmers the difference to return them to profitability, to the tune of tens of billions per year

@wildgrass said
I think you are framing the problem incorrectly. The protests are not the problem. The problem is that western farming practices are not profitable, and they need to adjust their methods. They don't want to adjust, because change is hard. So they protest.

The US solution is bad too. After tariffs Trump's administration just decided to pay the farmers the difference to return them to profitability, to the tune of tens of billions per year

@Cliff-Mashburn said
Farm subsidies have been around since the 1920's, but keep blaming Trump, it seems to be working for you.

@divegeester said
I don’t think I’m “framing” the problem at all; I just posted the facts.

You have you liberal pro EU anti farmer opinion on those facts and I have mine.

@wildgrass said
"farming isn't profitable" is an opinion?

@A-Unique-Nickname said
How do you know deer don't like garlic? Fortunately we don't have many deers in Ireland.

@divegeester

Is this why?

https://allnewspipeline.com/The_Elite_Plan_For_The_Great_Food_Reset.php

@Metal-Brain said
@divegeester

Is this why?

https://allnewspipeline.com/The_Elite_Plan_For_The_Great_Food_Reset.php

@divegeester
It’s All About Control: The Elite Plan for the Great Food Reset - When People Are Starving It’s Easier To Keep Them In Check, Prevent Them From Protesting, And Control Them

@wildgrass said
The problem is that western farming practices are not profitable, and they need to adjust their methods. They don't want to adjust, because change is hard. So they protest.