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AverageJoe1
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Biden is really on the Climate thing...No, not him, his faerie administration. They are worried about the temperatures rising by 1 degree in the next 1000 years.
Joe is being told to direct a lot of money and effort into making housing cheaper and Climate Friendly and such as that. Young people are not likely going to be buying houses anytime soon, Joe's economy has priced them out. There will be nothing cheaper about it. Instead of working on home ownership, he is working on climate?!?!?

But, the good news, is that you liberals are not interested in owning anything like that. You like the mob scene, all leaning on each other, where the govt will put you all in one big venue where you do everything tooogeeeeeeeeether. Concentrate everyone into large cities. You would NEVER want your own house, you want a large venue where you can pass the pipe around. Your kids are so lucky!!

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@AverageJoe1 said
Biden is really on the Climate thing...No, not him, his faerie administration. They are worried about the temperatures rising by 1 degree in the next 1000 years.
Joe is being told to direct a lot of money and effort into making housing cheaper and Climate Friendly and such as that. Young people are not likely going to be buying houses anytime soon, Joe's economy h ...[text shortened]... our own house, you want a large venue where you can pass the pipe around. Your kids are so lucky!!
Really, it sounds like you’ve been smoking the fvcking pipe, dude.

AverageJoe1
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@shavixmir said
Really, it sounds like you’ve been smoking the fvcking pipe, dude.
No, in short, the libs here are more into climate than home ownership. Maybe sour grapes, since they cant afford homes in Bidenomics/Climateomics.
Avg price of a home is $465k. It will be 500 by end of year. Look it up, it is all there.

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@AverageJoe1 said
No, in short, the libs here are more into climate than home ownership. Maybe sour grapes, since they cant afford homes in Bidenomics/Climateomics.
Avg price of a home is $465k. It will be 500 by end of year. Look it up, it is all there.
The same here in Europe.
Is that Biden’s fault too?

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@AverageJoe1 said
No, in short, the libs here are more into climate than home ownership. Maybe sour grapes, since they cant afford homes in Bidenomics/Climateomics.
Avg price of a home is $465k. It will be 500 by end of year. Look it up, it is all there.
you're an imbecile if you think a house costs 500k to 1million or more because of green initiatives.

like "eat less avocado toast and you could afford a home" levels of stupidity

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@Zahlanzi said
you're an imbecile if you think a house costs 500k to 1million or more because of green initiatives.

like "eat less avocado toast and you could afford a home" levels of stupidity
Well, I don’t eat advokado toast… and I live lake side.

Maybe there is something to it.

If I stop drinking wine, does the house turn into a castle?

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@AverageJoe1 said
They are worried about the temperatures rising by 1 degree in the next 1000 years.
The notion that humans are not changing the climate is ridiculous. We are pouring greenhouse gases into the atmosphere and that of course warms things up.

The notion that climate change will result in human extinction is silly. It would take 5,000 years for the Worst Case Scenario (WCS; below) to develop. Humanity will act long before then to rein in the most dire effects - most likely through geo-engineering and SO2 emissions into the upper atmosphere first, to cool the planet.

The notion that we have to reduce our standard of living in order to combat climate change is alarmist. We will move to 100% solar and renewable resources (this was always going to happen eventually), and our standard of living will continue to increase once we level stabilize our population at a reasonable level.

The Worst Case Scenario on climate change is the total melting of ice caps, 65m sea level rise, a hellish landscape inhospitable to cultivation in certain areas, 90-95% species extinction, much more massive storms, the collapse of all major human civilizations, and survivors moving to the poles, probably including Antarctica. Even under the WCS, some humans would definitely survive. [For me, my house is 134m above sea level. So I'm good 😀 ].

It would take longer than human history for the WCS to develop. So this will not happen. Future humans, with more at stake than us, will stop it.

We should, of course, assist our future offspring by reducing our emissions as much as possible today. That's just being good great-great-great-great-grandparents.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

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@spruce112358 said
The notion that humans are not changing the climate is ridiculous. We are pouring greenhouse gases into the atmosphere and that of course warms things up.

The notion that climate change will result in human extinction is silly. It would take 5,000 years for the Worst Case Scenario (WCS; below) to develop. Humanity will act long before then to rein in the most d ...[text shortened]... y. That's just being good great-great-great-great-grandparents.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
You are very welcome. Please get Jill Stein off the stage, and get the climate fanatics the hell out of our treasury, so that we can otherwise use those funds to handle the housing problem, housing that people like Shav want to be free!

Hey, did our fanatics here on the forum ever defend that horrible climate Czar flying all over the world in a private plane. No they didn't....but more to the point, in keeping with findings of the Forum, no one said anything negative about it, either. Like they never complain about billionairre actors and comedians (they love comedy) who are so wealthy. Just corporate execs who built their computers. They are so conflicted, that is why they seem so angry in their posts.

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@shavixmir said
The same here in Europe.
Is that Biden’s fault too?
What is the same, Shav? Inflation, or the huge increase in home prices? Since inflation has gone up 19% since Biden took office, considering all the bidenomics, etc (Now is when you say what 'other' presidents did, but you will not acknowledge that times were diff with each president), he is the main inflation problem. He blames it on Trump, when inflation was at 1.4 when he left. Why don;'t you defend Biden and agree that Trump caused inflation. You can't and you won't.
People cannot afford homes anymore. This may not seem a problem to a hostel-type such as yourself. Yeah, we def have different type societies.

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@AverageJoe1 said
Biden is really on the Climate thing...No, not him, his faerie administration. They are worried about the temperatures rising by 1 degree in the next 1000 years.
Joe is being told to direct a lot of money and effort into making housing cheaper and Climate Friendly and such as that. Young people are not likely going to be buying houses anytime soon, Joe's economy h ...[text shortened]... our own house, you want a large venue where you can pass the pipe around. Your kids are so lucky!!
Maths didn't compute Joe. We built our infrastructure based on one type of climate that's now changing. Even the most extreme on both sides agree that's a problem.

The solutions will cost money. Climate change mitigation is one option, likely the cheaper option, but if we don't do that then there's going to be a lot needed for infrastructure changes that make us more resilient to climate issues. Eg. This year $12 billion upgrade to the power grid in Texas due to higher frequency of severe weather.

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@wildgrass said
Maths didn't compute Joe. We built our infrastructure based on one type of climate that's now changing. Even the most extreme on both sides agree that's a problem.

The solutions will cost money. Climate change mitigation is one option, likely the cheaper option, but if we don't do that then there's going to be a lot needed for infrastructure changes that make us more res ...[text shortened]... This year $12 billion upgrade to the power grid in Texas due to higher frequency of severe weather.
We agree again. The govt pays for infrastructure with our taxes. I need my bridge, and people need subways, and publlic services. I assume that that is what you are talking about. And, that the said infrastructure costs money, that which we pay into taxes. Said infrastructure such as grids need to be kept up as we keep roads up.
Some of the endeavors like grids and solar panels, need to be paid for with taxes. But how can you say all that, how expensive it is, and pay off loans of losers? And we owe China about $800B. How would you handle all this with your chatting at the family table. Its the same thing. "Honey, I am going to go see Bill next door and pay the tuition of his daughter. We can hold off getting that new solar panel to keep our business going witih our hothouse tomatoes.'

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Err, ozone and acid rain? Are you saying that those were/ are not real?

Spoiler alert, just like global warming those are real things. The Montreal protocol worked! Scientists fixed the ozone layer hole. Its a huge fracking success story in how humans with our big brains can come together and solve problems.

The problem with climate change now is the misinformation campaigns by monied interests in fossil fuels make you think it isn't real.

But even metalbrain, the odd ball conspiracy theorist, admits that climate change is real. He disagrees only on solutions.

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@AverageJoe1 said
We agree again. The govt pays for infrastructure with our taxes. I need my bridge, and people need subways, and publlic services. I assume that that is what you are talking about. And, that the said infrastructure costs money, that which we pay into taxes. Said infrastructure such as grids need to be kept up as we keep roads up.
Some of the endeavors like grid ...[text shortened]... e can hold off getting that new solar panel to keep our business going witih our hothouse tomatoes.'
You miss the part where expensive infrastructure would be unnecessary if we can turn 2 degrees of warming into 1 degree of warming.

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