@Zahlanzi saidWe would lose billions of people under the Worst Case Scenario IF it happened all of us sudden.
We just might lose millions of people.
Per Google, that will take longer than human history.
"How long will the ice caps take to melt? 5,000 years
"The Earth itself contains more than 5 million cubic miles of ice. Even at the rate that we are pumping carbon dioxide it is speculated that it would take over 5,000 years to melt all the ice." - Google. Dec 25, 2023
Other stuff here:
https://www.nhpr.org/climate-change/2024-03-09/outside-inbox-could-humans-survive-a-worst-case-climate-change-scenario
@spruce112358 said"We would lose billions of people under the Worst Case Scenario IF it happened all of us sudden.
We would lose billions of people under the Worst Case Scenario IF it happened all of us sudden.
Per Google, that will take longer than human history.
"How long will the ice caps take to melt? 5,000 years
"The Earth itself contains more than 5 million cubic miles of ice. Even at the rate that we are pumping carbon dioxide it is speculated that it would take over ...[text shortened]... rg/climate-change/2024-03-09/outside-inbox-could-humans-survive-a-worst-case-climate-change-scenario
Per Google, that will take longer than human history."
I am not talking about that. Climate change scientists aren't talking about that. Nobody is talking about the extinction of the human race except sci-fi writers and hollywook apocalypse movies.
I am talking about millions of people dying. I am talking about wars started because of food shortages. Crops failing because of drought doesn't require 65 feet of sea level rise
""How long will the ice caps take to melt? 5,000 years"
I am beginning to think you haven't read a word of what i wrote
@spruce112358 saidoh sorry. you quoted the same info i said it is most often found in apocalypse movies and sci-fi
I do. You asked me this:
"It would take 5,000 years for the Worst Case Scenario (WCS; below) to develop."
you're missing the link that proves this claim.
I'm just telling you where I got the information.
quote my words please when you respond to something.
i was wondering why you mention again that info when i already said nobody thinks that will happen in the next decade
my point stands: the earth won't turn into a desert, the human race won't disappear entirely and the world won't all land under 60m elevation. But it doesn't take that to make the planet a very unpleasant place to live. it's enough to have several bad crops back to back and china and india starves. Then you have two countries with nuclear arsenals governed by not exactly the most sane people who would rather direct their people towards a war than have them riot at home.
Humanity won't go extinct if a couple of US cities get flattened by several katrinas back to back. Humanity won't go extinct if mass migration causes some epidemics even worse than covid. It's still bad and will get worse
You can't say it's the fifth generation after us problems. We call baby boomers sociopaths for selling our future, how do you think our grand children will call us?
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@Zahlanzi saidWeather is setting new records almost every day and certainly every season.
oh sorry. you quoted the same info i said it is most often found in apocalypse movies and sci-fi
quote my words please when you respond to something.
i was wondering why you mention again that info when i already said nobody thinks that will happen in the next decade
my point stands: the earth won't turn into a desert, the human race won't disappear entirely and ...[text shortened]... ll baby boomers sociopaths for selling our future, how do you think our grand children will call us?
I'm surprised that he cares so little for people that he would advocate for this to continue just so he makes a bit more money than his neighbor.
Sorry, no, I'm not actually surprised.
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@shavixmir saidI know it hurt to say that.
Where is metalbrain… he was so much more rational than what’s replaced him.
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@Zahlanzi saidI also doubt we are headed for desert conditions worldwide. Earth happens to have been in a "cool, dry" period with glaciation every X-1000 years now for quite some time. The next glaciation is overdue according to the Milankovitch cycle, so something has thrown that off.
my point stands: the earth won't turn into a desert, the human race won't disappear entirely and the world won't all land under 60m elevation. But it doesn't take that to make the planet a very unpleasant place to live. it's enough to have several bad crops back to back and china and india starves. Then you have two countries with nuclear arsenals governed by not exactly the ...[text shortened]... ll baby boomers sociopaths for selling our future, how do you think our grand children will call us?
With enough greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, the Earth would likely revert to "warm, wet" conditions, as have been common in various epochs in the past.
I note that here in central North Carolina, the USDA has moved our "plant hardiness" from 7a to 8b (i.e. warmer), which is a problem if trying to grow certain mountain species like rhododendrons.
I've also looked at our average NC annual rainfall over the last 137 years and you might be interest to know that our three driest years were 1921, 1925, and 1933 - otherwise pretty steady at just over 44 inches/year with a slight uptick in the last 30 years.
I'm not sure humans will find it more difficult to survive in a warm, wet earth compared to a cool, dry earth. I think we are actually quite well adapted to warm, wet - we are a tropical ape species, after all, and don't have much Neanderthal blood in us anymore.
Nuclear weapons are a separate topic - naught to do with climate change.
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Well there is that pesky part where for instance, if the ice melts in in Greenland and Iceland, first they will have to change their name and second we all have to deal with about a 20 foot rise in sea levels so I guess home ownership is a THOUSAND times more of a threat than that.
But for you ultrarightwingnuts you can't think beyond the next dow jones update, any long term climate change just doesn't register because you can't see more than a week into the future. Well I take that back, you DO see into the future where you have your fantasy about November elections. Beyond that, you are stuck in the present and anything more than a week away might as well be thinking about the next 1000 years.