@techsouth saidNo. Whataboutism. Hillary's claim that trump's win was illegitimate is based on the fact that he broke rules and norms of politics. Like Tom Brady in deflategate. Also she concede the race and there was peaceful transition of power.
Was there any evidence that Trump stole the 2016 election?
Trump said and continues.to say the election itself was fraudulent. This is false. Fake news. For obvious reasons this idea needs to be kicked down a hole and people who promote this fake idea should be deported to Venezuela.
@averagejoe1 saidHang in there, averagjoe.
Any one here with legal minds...... Lets us observe the Jan 6 hearings.
Cross examination is not allowed, there is no one to 'object'...... The leader of the hearing actually introduced a video by saying.."So, without objection...." WHO would have a standing to object in this environment???
The dems have a good story to tell, given, but they have set it u ...[text shortened]... .
No question this is all about getting Trump. Shouldn't we look more at security, other issues.?
The trial is coming.
I think you can see what this is building toward Joe. If you know that what you are saying is false, and you have been told lots and lots of times that this is false, and you raise money and advertise events and take donations based on declarations that an obvious falsehood is true, then you are committing mail fraud which is a federal crime.
@sonhouse saidThey broke some men by locking them in solitary for months and months, literally torture, they then dangled a plea deal. Of course sonhouse would have been confessing to shooting kennedy on day two.
@mghrn55
Trials already happening and some of the not so Proud boys now pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy. Can't wait for it to get to the head of the snake.
@wildgrass saidUnderstandable, usually you need evidence. 😛
"in no instance did a court find that charges of fraud were real... the simple fact is that the Trump campaign did not make its case."
- Ben Ginsberg (Republican lawyer)
@sonhouse saidSettle, man, wander a bit in the meadow. Do you not get this simple issue? I cannot repeat it, it does not need repeating. Read it again in first post. Or start a thread on Trump, that may be the best thing. I am writing an issue of the decorum of this 2-week discussion among democrats. Its OK.
@AverageJoe1
Ok, you do not LIKE Trump but it's like, he's an assshole but he is MY assshole.
So what about the issue I actually brought up? You are evading that one.
That goes to the crux of the issue that Trump STARTED the coup along with hundreds of others and he WAS in communications directly with the Proud boys.
So what is it about that issue you don't want to d ...[text shortened]... ors which is what Pence would not allow.
Do you at least agree with THAT, there WERE fake electors?
If the dems succeed, that Trump cannot run again ,..... The repubs, including me ( everyone wants to get personal on the Forum??) want him to go away. They think that he is not the guy, I believe.
So, new threads everyone !!!! Who will lead our ticket!!??!
And, will Sonhouse continue into the year 2030 writing about Trump?
@averagejoe1 saidI'd want to forget him too/
If the dems succeed, that Trump cannot run again ,..... The repubs, including me ( everyone wants to get personal on the Forum??) want him to go away. They think that he is not the guy, I believe.
So, new threads everyone !!!! Who will lead our ticket!!??!
And, will Sonhouse continue into the year 2030 writing about Trump?
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Y'all ought to nominate LIZ CHENEY.....
Her and Kinzinger, (?)
Only honest REPUBLICANS I can see
@averagejoe1 saidThey'll never run but I think Ben Sasse or Liz Cheney would be great presidents.
If the dems succeed, that Trump cannot run again ,..... The repubs, including me ( everyone wants to get personal on the Forum??) want him to go away. They think that he is not the guy, I believe.
So, new threads everyone !!!! Who will lead our ticket!!??!
And, will Sonhouse continue into the year 2030 writing about Trump?
@wildgrass saidSasse is too sane for the current GOP.
They'll never run but I think Ben Sasse or Liz Cheney would be great presidents.
Psaki, is O.K too.