@metal-brain saidI want you to remember this the next time you try to convince us that governments are clever enough or even care enough to cover up their wrong doings in wild conspiracies. This was always an open secret, no conspiracy, just Cold War real politic. To be brutally honest it would have been a waste to not have had operation paper clip. Short of inventing a time machine and rearranging early 20th century history the atrocities had already happened.
I want you to remember you said that the next time you believe government is doing good and they are telling you the truth.
@kevcvs57 saidThe Iran Contra scandal (conspiracy) happened. Oliver North was caught and had to admit he was dealing hard drugs and was arming Iran while our government was arming Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war. They don't admit wrong doings by choice, especially arming both sides of a bloody war that killed over 1 million people.
I want you to remember this the next time you try to convince us that governments are clever enough or even care enough to cover up their wrong doings in wild conspiracies. This was always an open secret, no conspiracy, just Cold War real politic. To be brutally honest it would have been a waste to not have had operation paper clip. Short of inventing a time machine and rearranging early 20th century history the atrocities had already happened.
They only admit to stuff like that when they get caught. I want you to remember that.
@metal-brain saidYes with the thousands of people involved in that operation it was a tightly controlled secret huh. The military do bad things to get the job done and we give our tacit agreement. The fact that certain arms of government don’t tell the governed everything they do is not a conspiracy it’s S.O.P.
The Iran Contra scandal (conspiracy) happened. Oliver North was caught and had to admit he was dealing hard drugs and was arming Iran while our government was arming Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war. They don't admit wrong doings by choice, especially arming both sides of a bloody war that killed over 1 million people.
They only admit to stuff like that when they get caught. I want you to remember that.
If you think that the Iran/Contra fiasco lends any weight to your fantastical propaganda regarding vaccines then your just the sort of idiot that governments rely on to keep us in the dark about what’s actually happening.
@kevcvs57 saidThere was an investigation. That was needed to expose those secrets. Lot of conspirators are in organized crime syndicates too and they keep secrets fairly well. Government is run like an organized crime syndicate. That is the problem.
Yes with the thousands of people involved in that operation it was a tightly controlled secret huh. The military do bad things to get the job done and we give our tacit agreement. The fact that certain arms of government don’t tell the governed everything they do is not a conspiracy it’s S.O.P.
If you think that the Iran/Contra fiasco lends any weight to your fantastical pr ...[text shortened]... t the sort of idiot that governments rely on to keep us in the dark about what’s actually happening.
@metal-brain saidWell finally, common ground regarding the nature of government. I don’t scoff at some of your conspiracy theories because I think governments are good or honest but because they do not have any internal logic or rational motivation.
There was an investigation. That was needed to expose those secrets. Lot of conspirators are in organized crime syndicates too and they keep secrets fairly well. Government is run like an organized crime syndicate. That is the problem.
@kevcvs57 saidJack Nicholson thanks you for being able to handle the truth!
The military do bad things to get the job done and we give our tacit agreement. The fact that certain arms of government don’t tell the governed everything they do is not a conspiracy it’s S.O.P.
If you think that the Iran/Contra fiasco lends any weight to your fantastical propaganda regarding vaccines then your just the sort of idiot that governments rely on to keep us in the dark about what’s actually happening.
@kevcvs57 saidThey have plenty of rational motivation. Self interest.
Well finally, common ground regarding the nature of government. I don’t scoff at some of your conspiracy theories because I think governments are good or honest but because they do not have any internal logic or rational motivation.
You have simply accepted the lame excuses they are using for doing what they are doing instead of the real reasons. Look up "kissinger petrodollar". That will give you a clue.
People don't resort to conspiracy theories because they want to. They do it because the lame reasons the establishment gives for doing what they are doing do not make sense, so it only makes sense to find the hidden reasons. When the conspiracy theory makes perfect sense it is difficult to ignore.
@metal-brain saidYeah, I didn't know about this at all. But in my defense, I'm a dumbass American.
"Everybody knows about operation paperclip."
That is not true.
Even those that know about it, very few know much about it. I thought I knew about it pretty well until I watched Rogan's interview with Annie Jacobsen. It even creeped me out and that rarely happens. I know you could not handle it. You are one of those people that should not watch it. You would blow a fuse.
Go back to your soothing lies. This thread is not for you or those like you.
Thanks for posting about it.
@metal-brain saidIf the conspiracy is about powerful men manipulating government policy in order to line their pockets then save yourself the effort enlightening us. We are already well aware that we are in a non consensual sexual relationship with these men and women.
They have plenty of rational motivation. Self interest.
You have simply accepted the lame excuses they are using for doing what they are doing instead of the real reasons. Look up "kissinger petrodollar". That will give you a clue.
People don't resort to conspiracy theories because they want to. They do it because the lame reasons the establishment gives for doing wha ...[text shortened]... o find the hidden reasons. When the conspiracy theory makes perfect sense it is difficult to ignore.
My issue is the microchips in vaccines or covid being smoke and mirrors type of conspiracy theories which are actually more damaging than most actual conspiracy, unless of course it’s big pharma in cahoots with health care organisations to hook a whole nation in opioids. I’ve noted that you are strangely silent on this one 🤔
@kevcvs57 saidStrangely silent? Ridiculous!
If the conspiracy is about powerful men manipulating government policy in order to line their pockets then save yourself the effort enlightening us. We are already well aware that we are in a non consensual sexual relationship with these men and women.
My issue is the microchips in vaccines or covid being smoke and mirrors type of conspiracy theories which are actually mor ...[text shortened]... anisations to hook a whole nation in opioids. I’ve noted that you are strangely silent on this one 🤔
I have been pointing out corruption by big pharma all along. I have even called my country a pharmaceutical dictatorship.
Biden let Afghan men fall to their deaths and he stands by his decision. Still think government cares about people? Honoring the deal with the Taliban is more important than a few human lives.
https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/afghanistan-people-fall-to-death-midair-after-climbing-onto-us-air-force-plane/news-story/9714beb005da9a951a1b11dd5f4e27b6
@Metal-Brain
That was the TRUMP era, kiss my ring or you are my enemy. THAT is how mafia rules.
You really tick me off when you weaponize everything like you have an overriding need to do.
I also REALLY resent your insinuations of Biden. He is in for 1/8 of the time of your god king Trump and he has already accomplished ten times what ever bullshyte Trump was puking out but BECAUSE Biden is A: NOT TRUMP and B: An ACCURSED democrat.
You will never understand one thing: How fragile our democracy is.
Right now we are seeing a complete shift in democracy as evidenced by Fulton county in Georgia, where the repubs are LEGALLY now allowed to completely replace elected officials covering vote count and other stuff related to elections, get rid of those IDIOTS who just count votes and say, Dems win. CAN'T have that so let's get rid of those idiots and stick in someone who will do the repub fantasy, OMG, there were 103,000 fraudulent votes here, we can trash those. Oh, they are all dem votes? Wow, what is up with that? WHY ARE DEMOCRATS CHEATING LIKE THAT?
And you wonder why you pizz me off?
@sonhouse saidBiden closed Trump's deal with the Taliban and let them take Afghanistan. His letting people fall to their deaths indicates that. Facebook and Twitter allowing the Taliban to use their websites to communicate to take control of Kabul indicates that. They are no different, they are both creeps.
@Metal-Brain
That was the TRUMP era, kiss my ring or you are my enemy. THAT is how mafia rules.
You really tick me off when you weaponize everything like you have an overriding need to do.
I also REALLY resent your insinuations of Biden. He is in for 1/8 of the time of your god king Trump and he has already accomplished ten times what ever bullshyte Trump was puking out b ...[text shortened]... ow, what is up with that? WHY ARE DEMOCRATS CHEATING LIKE THAT?
And you wonder why you pizz me off?
We are now allies with the Taliban. They just do not want to admit it to you.
@Metal-Brain
He didn't LET them take Afghanistan. TRUMP let them take Afghanistan you cretin who should be selling pencils on a street corner.
Who else but Trump would be stupid enough to actually think he was negotiating with the Taliban?
Yeah, sure, says the Taliban leader who is now Afghan POTUS, whatever you say bro.
@sonhouse saidThat is absurd! Trump is not POTUS anymore.
@Metal-Brain
He didn't LET them take Afghanistan. TRUMP let them take Afghanistan you cretin who should be selling pencils on a street corner.
Who else but Trump would be stupid enough to actually think he was negotiating with the Taliban?
Yeah, sure, says the Taliban leader who is now Afghan POTUS, whatever you say bro.
Why did Facebook and Twitter let the Taliban use their websites to take Kabul? Biden has leaned on social media to censor stuff before. Why didn't he tell fascistbook and Twit to censor the Taliban?
Is the Taliban considered a terrorist organization or not? Yes or no?
Either Biden has a deal with terrorists or he doesn't. Which is it?