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@metal-brain said
Biden closed Trump's deal with the Taliban and let them take Afghanistan. His letting people fall to their deaths indicates that. Facebook and Twitter allowing the Taliban to use their websites to communicate to take control of Kabul indicates that. They are no different, they are both creeps.

We are now allies with the Taliban. They just do not want to admit it to you.
The problem, Metal brain, is that you take grains of truth, unavoidable side effects and out of context observations and weave them into webs of conspiracy which are neither here nor there.

The US wanted Nazi technology, but it didn’t suit the “want” to admit this to the population who’d just fought 3 years against these foes, when it meant admitting to using the very Nazis that were fought against.

But, if the US had been able to capture the information without the criminals, nobody would have protested.

So as a government you have to weigh these matters. Ultimately, the information is worth more than the moral dilemma.

Facebook and twitter have no financial gains, political or otherwise, to communicate directly with the Taliban.

But because the US government used Nazi scientists, you automatically presume there’s a grander scheme and shuffle social media into the equation.

And that’s what you consistantly do wrong.

You should watch some Startalk with Neil deGrasse Tyson and the comedian Chuck.
They talk about astrophysics, but sometimes they pop onto these conspiracy topics and why it is irrational.

Yes. Absolutely doubt governments, big business and especially the weapons and drugs manufacurers;
Yes. Absolutely doubt anything you hear on social media;
Yes! Absolutely doubt secret services.

But do not doubt human incompetence. There is no way 3 people could keep a fake moon landing secret, never mind the thousands that would have been involved.

Equally, there is no way that the US government, Facebook, Twitter, the international community, various armies, etc. actually planned this Afghan mishap.

And all these institutes, with a million participants, would have to be in the know…

Just
Not
Possible

Get a grip, my paranoid friend, get a fcking grip. Of reality.

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@shavixmir
Great post! MB seeing the light? Not going to happen in THIS century.

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@metal-brain said
Strangely silent? Ridiculous!

I have been pointing out corruption by big pharma all along. I have even called my country a pharmaceutical dictatorship.

Biden let Afghan men fall to their deaths and he stands by his decision. Still think government cares about people? Honoring the deal with the Taliban is more important than a few human lives.

https://www.news.co ...[text shortened]... l-to-death-midair-after-climbing-onto-us-air-force-plane/news-story/9714beb005da9a951a1b11dd5f4e27b6
I have never thought government cares about people. What sort of idiot thinks that, I do not even know anyone who thinks that.
Yes you’ve regaled us many times with your covid vaccine and big pharma conspiracy theory but nothing to my knowledge concerning the actual conspiracy between government and big pharma concerning the ‘legal’ swamping of the US with opioids.

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@shavixmir said
The problem, Metal brain, is that you take grains of truth, unavoidable side effects and out of context observations and weave them into webs of conspiracy which are neither here nor there.

The US wanted Nazi technology, but it didn’t suit the “want” to admit this to the population who’d just fought 3 years against these foes, when it meant admitting to using the very N ...[text shortened]... n the know…

Just
Not
Possible

Get a grip, my paranoid friend, get a fcking grip. Of reality.
All of that and you still cannot prove me wrong? You must be extremely inept at debating if you cannot prove me wrong if all that you just said is true.

That is a very strong effort at trolling though. Most trolling is not that lengthy. I must really be getting to you.
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@kevcvs57 said
I have never thought government cares about people. What sort of idiot thinks that, I do not even know anyone who thinks that.
Yes you’ve regaled us many times with your covid vaccine and big pharma conspiracy theory but nothing to my knowledge concerning the actual conspiracy between government and big pharma concerning the ‘legal’ swamping of the US with opioids.
If you don't think they care about you why do you believe their lies?
Do you think they are truthful sociopaths?

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@Metal-Brain
You mean like your god king TRUMP?

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@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
You mean like your god king TRUMP?
You are still trolling. You are also lying. You know fully well I voted for Howie Hawkins, not Trump or Biden.

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@metal-brain said
All of that and you still cannot prove me wrong? You must be extremely inept at debating if you cannot prove me wrong if all that you just said is true.

That is a very strong effort at trolling though. Most trolling is not that lengthy. I must really be getting to you.
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Prove what wrong?

Deflection after deflection.
I once told you to get psychatric help. Did you ever look into it?

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@shavixmir said
Prove what wrong?

Deflection after deflection.
I once told you to get psychatric help. Did you ever look into it?
Debate instead of trolling. Debating involves proving another wrong. Lying while trolling is not debating.

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@metal-brain said
Debate instead of trolling. Debating involves proving another wrong. Lying while trolling is not debating.
Not one line of my post was a lie.

See. Deflection after deflection. And calling anyone (which is basically, in your case, everyone) a troll is the definition of trolling.

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@shavixmir said
Not one line of my post was a lie.

See. Deflection after deflection. And calling anyone (which is basically, in your case, everyone) a troll is the definition of trolling.
Now you are lying about lying.

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@metal-brain said
Now you are lying about lying.
Fck off outta here!
Yer worth nothin’ and everything you say is compromised.

I will no longer even attempt to engage you rationally. You are a loser, pond scum, and even sober I’d wish you to fck off the forum.

Go to spirituality, where you belong!

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@shavixmir said
Fck off outta here!
Yer worth nothin’ and everything you say is compromised.

I will no longer even attempt to engage you rationally. You are a loser, pond scum, and even sober I’d wish you to fck off the forum.

Go to spirituality, where you belong!
Still not debating I see.

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@metal-brain said
Still not debating I see.
I debated. I explained.
I even went so far to offer you advise on getting therapy.

Fck off. We’re finished here. Moron.

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@shavixmir said
I debated. I explained.
I even went so far to offer you advise on getting therapy.

Fck off. We’re finished here. Moron.
Ad hominem attacks are far from a debate. That is how you avoid debating.

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