Debates
11 Oct 21
@divegeester saidTo be honest, that is a reasonable summary of the average Brexit supporter.
This list is lifted from yours and Shav’s posts; these insults and slurs are either directed straight at me or inferred.
Hogwash
Tory
Racist
Moron
homophobic
anti-immigrant
anti-female
right-wing nationalist agendas
Hypocrisy
Nazis
Sexual discrimination
Nazi German occupation
degenerate fake-Englanders
BS
Knuckle dragging
Johnny foreigner
Racis ...[text shortened]...
slippery character
Ignorant
Gullible, stupid or racist
Find where I have responded in kind???
Thanks for doing the gathering. I can really use it for a new alert: “The little Englander.”
@divegeester said🚨🚧
Once again we see the EU overextending its reach as it tries to grab legal power in an independent nation state.
From the article:
On Thursday, Poland's Constitutional Tribunal ruled that key articles of one of the EU's primary treaties were incompatible with Polish law, in effect [b]rejecting the principle that EU law has primacy over national legislation in cert ...[text shortened]... b]
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58840076
Come on Poland you can do this, fight!
Hogwash
Tory
Racist
Moron
homophobic
anti-immigrant
anti-female
right-wing nationalist agendas
Hypocrisy
Nazis
Sexual discrimination
Nazi German occupation
degenerate fake-Englanders
BS
Knuckle dragging
Johnny foreigner
slippery character
Ignorant
Gullible, stupid or racist
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Yup. That saves a lot of hassle. It’s like discussing rocket science with Forrest Gump… and this is easier.
@shavixmir saidIt’s a pity for you that there are so many of us “Forrest Gumps” out there, cos you keep losing votes.
Yup. That saves a lot of hassle. It’s like discussing rocket science with Forrest Gump… and this is easier.
I’d have to think of a few more insults. Quickly, if I was you.
@divegeester said🚨🚧
It’s a pity for you that there are so many of us “Forrest Gumps” out there, cos you keep losing votes.
I’d have to think of a few more insults. Quickly, if I was you.
Hogwash
Tory
Racist
Moron
homophobic
anti-immigrant
anti-female
right-wing nationalist agendas
Hypocrisy
Nazis
Sexual discrimination
Nazi German occupation
degenerate fake-Englanders
BS
Knuckle dragging
Johnny foreigner
slippery character
Ignorant
Gullible, stupid or racist
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19 Oct 21
@divegeester said“ You either do not care as long as it destabilises the EU or you feel the same about these issues as Orban and Duda. So which is it?”
What specifically, is the “wriggling” in my reply to you at the bottom of page 5?
Answer the question without a wriggle and you may redeem yourself slightly.
@kevcvs57 saidSure, when you answer my question. Then I’ll answer yours.
“ You either do not care as long as it destabilises the EU or you feel the same about these issues as Orban and Duda. So which is it?”
Answer the question without a wriggle and you may redeem yourself slightly.
(PS the stuff you wrote and put in quotation marks, I didn’t say, so not sure why it’s in quotation marks. )
19 Oct 21
@divegeester saidNo I was reposting an earlier question that I put to you which you neglected to answer twice now so I’ll just assume it’s option number two.
Sure, when you answer my question. Then I’ll answer yours.
(PS the stuff you wrote and put in quotation marks, I didn’t say, so not sure why it’s in quotation marks. )
And what was your question
19 Oct 21
@kevcvs57 saidThree posts up from the bottom of page 6, referring to my post at the bottom of page 5 which answers your question but you said is “wriggling”.
No I was reposting an earlier question that I put to you which you neglected to answer twice now so I’ll just assume it’s option number two.
And what was your question
Yawn.
19 Oct 21
@divegeester saidWell if did miss that piece of duplicitous idiocy. But yes your wriggling by misrepresenting the wishes if the polish government and 90% of the population neither of which have any desire or intention to leave the EU the government wants to erode Polands democratic checks and balances whilst still getting all the funding and other advantages of membership.
Three posts up from the bottom of page 6, referring to my post at the bottom of page 5 which answers your question but you said is “wriggling”.
Yawn.
It’s a shame for the polish people who suffered enough under autocratic regimes for most of the 20th century but if they cannot regain control of their own government they won’t have to have a referendum on polexit because the rest of the EU will make the decision for them.
So it’s the whatever it takes to destabilise the EU option then?
19 Oct 21
@divegeester said🚨🚧
Three posts up from the bottom of page 6, referring to my post at the bottom of page 5 which answers your question but you said is “wriggling”.
Yawn.
Hogwash
Tory
Racist
Moron
homophobic
anti-immigrant
anti-female
right-wing nationalist agendas
Hypocrisy
Nazis
Sexual discrimination
Nazi German occupation
degenerate fake-Englanders
BS
Knuckle dragging
Johnny foreigner
slippery character
Ignorant
Gullible, stupid or racist
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20 Oct 21
@kevcvs57 saidThe EU will NEVER kick Poland out. I guarantee it. What will happen is they will grab more power in a deal to keep them in.
It’s a shame for the polish people who suffered enough under autocratic regimes for most of the 20th century but if they cannot regain control of their own government they won’t have to have a referendum on polexit because the rest of the EU will make the decision for them.
If there was a referendum to stay or leave tomorrow I bet they would vote to leave.
My limited experience with the professional working class Poles was that they seem to not understand how the Euro worked. One middle manager I spent the day with told me he was looking forward to Poland adopting the single currency. He explained that travelling to and holidaying in the UK was currently too expensive and that the Euro would make it cheaper. I explained to him that that thinking was exactly how Greece got into debt and now the EU and Germany own their asses.
21 Oct 21
@divegeester saidIn a May 2016 poll, just before the British referendum, 41% of Poles thought a referendum should be held on Poland's membership and 22% would vote to leave.[19] A January 2020 poll for TV channel TVN conducted by Kantar Media found that 89 percent of Poles said Poland should stay in the EU while six percent said it should leave the union.[20] In November 2020, the same organisation reported that 87% of Poles said Poland should remain as a member of the EU while 8% of those said that Poland should leave the EU, while a further 5 percent was unable to decide.[21] In July 2021, SW Research made a poll for the Rzeczpospolita daily, found that 16.9% of respondents answered positively when asked: "In your opinion, should Poland leave the EU?" while another 62.6% responded negatively and just over 20% did not have an opinion.[22] However, less than two months later, Kantar Media only reported 7% support for Polexit and 81% opposition.[23]
90% of the Polish population don’t want to leave the EU…
I’m sure you’ll have some recent data to back that claim up?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polexit
Even the Polish government doesn’t want to leave the EU.