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A dog was chained to a van and two police officers were sent to capture him. At first the dog is running trying to not get caught but then he is caught.
After being caught the dog is "resisting arrest" for some time but in the end he understands that he is subdued.
After that he lays on the ground, moving his tail. And we all know what it means when a dog is moving his tail. don't we.
For this cop it meant: let me grab my pistol and shoot this dog:
Do not watch if you're a dog lover and are easily upset.
In the next segment a SWAT team is sent to a house with a search warrant. They break in and immediately shoot. Their fist shot is directed at one of the family dogs. After shooting the other dog for a first time they proceed to kill him with three more shots. This was a house family with children in it and what triggered all of this was that they burst in their house on drug charges.
If your thinking that this young man was a big time drug dealer and a history of violence, abuse and using his dogs for his dirty jobs you better think again. All of this was gratuitous and unnecessary:
20 Jun 10
Congratulations you've found two more cases of possible police errors, one going back several years.
There are almost 800,000 law enforcement officers in the United States, dealing with a population of over 300 million people.
Seems like they have an extremely low percentage of abusive behaviour claims considering the millions of contacts with the public that occur every day.
If the police were as bad as you like to claim our media would be nothing but horror stories of police officers gone wild.
What are you trying to do exactly when you dig up this stuff?
20 Jun 10
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Originally posted by Sam The ShamExamples please.
If the police were as bad as you like to claim
Where I'm going with this? Police officers are no all powerful and all knowing entities. Citizens have the right (I'd even say the duty) to question them whenever and wherever their conduct seems to be out of order.
Unlike what some people are saying we shouldn't just comply to their "orders" because of their uniforms.
Edit:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w12.html
http://www.thelibertypapers.org/files/silertranscript.pdf
20 Jun 10
Originally posted by adam warlockYes. It was totally unnecessary to shoot that dog and it was disgusting. It's a shame though that I disagree with the cops on this one. I would have loved to see no1's charges that I'm racist against dogs.
A dog was chained to a van and two police officers were sent to capture him. At first the dog is running trying to not get caught but then he is caught.
After being caught the dog is "resisting arrest" for some time but in the end he understands that he is subdued.
After that he lays on the ground, moving his tail. And we all know what it means when a ...[text shortened]... gain. All of this was gratuitous and unnecessary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbwSwvUaRqc
20 Jun 10
Originally posted by adam warlockI don't think this in any way surprising, it is well-known that there are very undesirable human beings in the police. The incidents with the dogs are really disturbing, do you know if anything happened to the people who committed such cruelty? Surely, these people shouldn't be employed to serve and protect the population if they're clearly insane or immoral.
A dog was chained to a van and two police officers were sent to capture him. At first the dog is running trying to not get caught but then he is caught.
After being caught the dog is "resisting arrest" for some time but in the end he understands that he is subdued.
After that he lays on the ground, moving his tail. And we all know what it means when a ...[text shortened]... gain. All of this was gratuitous and unnecessary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbwSwvUaRqc
20 Jun 10
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Originally posted by generalissimoAs far as I know all of them are still working: http://www.wgem.com/Global/story.asp?S=12667188
I don't think this in any way surprising, it is well-known that there are very undesirable human beings in the police. The incidents with the dogs are really disturbing, do you know if anything happened to the people who committed such cruelty? Surely, these people shouldn't be employed to serve and protect the population if they're clearly insane or immoral.
Which is hardly surprising given that such incidents when investigated are always investigated in an internal way.
There is also a case of an Officer John Marfia who has a history of assault on civilians, going as far as brutalizing a pregnant woman (and causing her baby to die). This sick SOB got a promotion (the people who promoted him are even sicker): http://policelink.monster.com/news/articles/129386-repeated-use-of-force-questioned-in-california
Then we have the police who chocked an ambulance driver because he didn't stop when he commanded him. The ambulance driver was taking a woman to the hospital but didn't have his siren on.So we can excuse the officer at this point. But after the driver stopped it was clearly visible that he was carrying a patient and still the police officer acted like a dick, risking the woman's life. After the chocking the driver took the women to the hospital.
All of this was filmed and the officer had a five day suspension.
Then there is the case of the woman that was beaten by a cop in the police station into a pulp. She was drunk and screaming for her telephone call and not cooperating. The officer moved to the camera and turned it off. When the camera was on again the women as in the floor beaten, bloody and barely moving. They took her to the hospital.
The official statement by the police is that after turning of the camera the women tried to run away and fell to the ground. And this is how she got her injuries.
The police didn't suffer repercussions because since he turned the recorder off (there was no way to know what happen).
Bear in mind that I'm quoting almost word for word official statements made by the police.
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21 Jun 10
Originally posted by adam warlockTaking all this into account, I think its really hard to have trust in the system if they continually allow injustice to take place, and allow such disgusting individuals to get away scot-free after their horrendous conduct.
As far as I know all of them are still working: http://www.wgem.com/Global/story.asp?S=12667188
Which is hardly surprising given that such incidents when investigated are always investigated in an internal way.
There is also a case of an Officer John Marfia who has a history of assault on civilians, going as far as brutalizing a pregnant woman (and ...[text shortened]... n mind that I'm quoting almost word for word official statements made by the police.
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There seems to be an urgent need for transparency and reform.
21 Jun 10
Originally posted by generalissimoConsidering the number of law enforcement officers in the country and their millions of daily contacts with the public , cases of abuse are an infinitesimal percentage.
Taking all this into account, I think its really hard to have trust in the system if they continually allow injustice to take place, and allow such disgusting individuals to get away scot-free after their horrendous conduct.
There seems to be an urgent need for transparency and reform.
Hardly an urgent need for reform, quite the contrary, it seems they do an admirable job.
21 Jun 10
Originally posted by Sam The ShamConsidering the number of law enforcement officers in the country and their millions of daily contacts with the public , cases of abuse are an infinitesimal percentage
Considering the number of law enforcement officers in the country and their millions of daily contacts with the public , cases of abuse are an infinitesimal percentage.
Hardly an urgent need for reform, quite the contrary, it seems they do an admirable job.
but existent nevertheless, now we can either be reasonable and try find ways to correct these problems, or we can take the sam the sham approach which is to bury our heads in the sand and pretend these problems don't exist. you choose.
Hardly an urgent need for reform, quite the contrary, it seems they do an admirable job.
I'd like to know if you'd have the same opinion if it had been your dog that was cruelly executed by the police, or if you had your pregnant wife brutally beaten by the police. I advise you to get your head out of your ass.
21 Jun 10
Originally posted by generalissimoI agree.
Taking all this into account, I think its really hard to have trust in the system if they continually allow injustice to take place, and allow such disgusting individuals to get away scot-free after their horrendous conduct.
There seems to be an urgent need for transparency and reform.
I think we need to stop letting disgusting individuals get away scot-free after their horrendous conduct. Who will disagree?
Think of the effects on one's mitochondrial DNA. Mine aches even to think about it.
21 Jun 10
Originally posted by generalissimoI'm not saying they weren't wrong, only that it was one mistake out of millions of decisions made in the field every day. Stop acting like it's cops gone wild across the nation and the whole system needs an overhaul.
[b]Considering the number of law enforcement officers in the country and their millions of daily contacts with the public , cases of abuse are an infinitesimal percentage
but existent nevertheless, now we can either be reasonable and try find ways to correct these problems, or we can take the sam the sham approach which is to bury our heads in ...[text shortened]... r pregnant wife brutally beaten by the police. I advise you to get your head out of your ass.[/b]
21 Jun 10
Originally posted by Sam The Shamfair enough, Im not saying we should be paranoid about dog-killing woman-beating officers lurking around. But I do think we shouldn't pretend that kind of stuff doesn't happen, of course it could be a lot worse, but ideally it shouldn't happen at all.
I'm not saying they weren't wrong, only that it was one mistake out of millions of decisions made in the field every day. Stop acting like it's cops gone wild across the nation and the whole system needs an overhaul.
21 Jun 10
Originally posted by generalissimoYes it's a shame we don't live in a perfect world.
fair enough, Im not saying we should be paranoid about dog-killing woman-beating officers lurking around. But I do think we shouldn't pretend that kind of stuff doesn't happen, of course it could be a lot worse, but ideally it shouldn't happen at all.