@no1marauder saidCulture diferences?
Why do you think other advanced country's police kill far less civilians per capita? https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/06/05/policekillings/
In 2019, US police killed 1099 individuals; England and Wales (with about 1/6 the population), killed 3.
22 Apr 21
@no1marauder saidThis is not a good comparison.
Why do you think other advanced country's police kill far less civilians per capita? https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/06/05/policekillings/
In 2019, US police killed 1099 individuals; England and Wales (with about 1/6 the population), killed 3.
The United States never compares well to W. European countries because the capabilities of the state and socioeconomic issues are much different.
There are parts of the US that are, indeed, just as good as anwyhere in W. Europe, and they include the right to own guns, and the right to have controversial opinions without the Police interrogating you.
But places like St. Louis, New Orleans, Chicago, much of New York City and Los Angeles... these were never really pleasant places to live. And we are not even talking about much worse places like Mississippi and Appalachia.
22 Apr 21
@philokalia saidYeah, Manchester, Glasgow and Belfast are world reknown for their long histories of good living and a high quality of life...
This is not a good comparison.
The United States never compares well to W. European countries because the capabilities of the state and socioeconomic issues are much different.
There are parts of the US that are, indeed, just as good as anwyhere in W. Europe, and they include [i]the right to own guns, and the right to have controversial opinions without the Po ...[text shortened]... places to live. And we are not even talking about much worse places like Mississippi and Appalachia.
@mott-the-hoople saidBut the police reform isn’t about preventing police from unlawfully killing armed threats is it, it’s about them killing people in their beds, or handcuffed facedown in the gutter or while their back is turned on them or when some otherwise unarmed harmless individual is having a bad day or even a psychotic break.
how much time do you think it takes a criminal to pull a trigger? may not be enough time to do any switching
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22 Apr 21
@kevcvs57 saidThere have been a few instances where the cop was wrong. In almost all those instances dept policy was not followed.
But the police reform isn’t about preventing police from unlawfully killing armed threats is it, it’s about them killing people in their beds, or handcuffed facedown in the gutter or while their back is turned on them or when some otherwise unarmed harmless individual is having a bad day or even a psychotic break.
Cops are human just like every one else, they make mistakes and some are down right evil.
Is it not racist of you to condemn every cop for the actions of a few?
22 Apr 21
@philokalia saidEven granting the lower crime rates in most such countries, the number of civilians killed by police here in relation to such areas seem extraordinary.
This is not a good comparison.
The United States never compares well to W. European countries because the capabilities of the state and socioeconomic issues are much different.
There are parts of the US that are, indeed, just as good as anwyhere in W. Europe, and they include [i]the right to own guns, and the right to have controversial opinions without the Po ...[text shortened]... places to live. And we are not even talking about much worse places like Mississippi and Appalachia.
22 Apr 21
@mott-the-hoople saidChauvin did not make a mistake he murdered someone in cold blood in broad daylight because he thought he could, because people like you constantly tell him he can by excusing the last cop that did it.
There have been a few instances where the cop was wrong. In almost all those instances dept policy was not followed.
Cops are human just like every one else, they make mistakes and some are down right evil.
Is it not racist of you to condemn every cop for the actions of a few?
Stop excusing racially motivated murder by the police and it will fall dramatically if it doesn’t stop completely.
22 Apr 21
@kevcvs57 saidDid y’all see where NBC edited the 911 call in the stabbing incident, taking out that she was armed and saying she was only 15, she was 16 . They literally edited the 911 call. Absolutely unbelievable. Are you fellas all behind these activist people who used to be journalists? Do you never fault one scintilla of how biased the media is.
Chauvin did not make a mistake he murdered someone in cold blood in broad daylight because he thought he could, because people like you constantly tell him he can by excusing the last cop that did it.
Stop excusing racially motivated murder by the police and it will fall dramatically if it doesn’t stop completely.
22 Apr 21
@kevcvs57 saidTo be accurate, Chauvin wasn't convicted of murdering in "cold blood".
Chauvin did not make a mistake he murdered someone in cold blood in broad daylight because he thought he could, because people like you constantly tell him he can by excusing the last cop that did it.
Stop excusing racially motivated murder by the police and it will fall dramatically if it doesn’t stop completely.
22 Apr 21
@no1marauder saidHe was by me and a lot of other people. Where was the hot blood? He did it emphatically and calmly over 9 minutes.
To be accurate, Chauvin wasn't convicted of murdering in "cold blood".
I’m not referring to a legal finding just a colloquialism really to describe the detached nature of the offender to the victim.
I do not know how the feds mandate that all States participate in a program to change police training
and make it universal. Such an attempt would likely be unconstitutional. The states may have the ability to control
the police within the municipalities muck like they regulate anything else But the feds seem to be out of the picture here
and the individual states are not forced to participate in any such police training program change.
The chances we get universal change in police training is - well, not good.
22 Apr 21
@kevcvs57 saidThe problem is neither murder charge is based on an intent to kill Floyd, which would seem to be required if you are murdering "in cold blood".
He was by me and a lot of other people. Where was the hot blood? He did it emphatically and calmly over 9 minutes.
I’m not referring to a legal finding just a colloquialism really to describe the detached nature of the offender to the victim.
22 Apr 21
@earl-of-trumps saidI think we'll see changes though. The statistics are hard to find ,but possibly we already have.
I do not know how the feds mandate that all States participate in a program to change police training
and make it universal. Such an attempt would likely be unconstitutional. The states may have the ability to control
the police within the municipalities muck like they regulate anything else But the feds seem to be out of the picture here
and the individual states a ...[text shortened]... raining program change.
The chances we get universal change in police training is - well, not good.
22 Apr 21
@earl-of-trumps saidThe Feds could attach strings to federal funds going to localities that refuse to follow legislated guidelines. This practice has been upheld by the SCOTUS numerous times.
I do not know how the feds mandate that all States participate in a program to change police training
and make it universal. Such an attempt would likely be unconstitutional. The states may have the ability to control
the police within the municipalities muck like they regulate anything else But the feds seem to be out of the picture here
and the individual states a ...[text shortened]... raining program change.
The chances we get universal change in police training is - well, not good.