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Patzering
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Oh I get it...

Y'all is mad about the States kicking yer ass?

Dude...let it go.

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@patzering said
Oh I get it...

Y'all is mad about the States kicking yer ass?

Dude...let it go.
Oh, you watched the world cup, did you?

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@shavixmir said
Oh, you watched the world cup, did you?
Seriously I wanted England to win 😞

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@no1marauder said
The wise pundits of the media were virtually unanimous in declaring Mueller's testimony on Wednesday as a "disaster" for the Democrats and a huge political win for the Donald. But a couple of polls taken after that testimony seem to contradict that assessment.

First, there is YouGov's. In its poll taken on July 22-23, 43% approved of Trump, while 49% disapproved. But ...[text shortened]... ons regarding the effect of the public testimony was more accurate than the after the fact punditry.
It isn't about left or right. It is about getting people upset about election influence from a foreign power so foreign websites can be censored.

https://www.tehrantimes.com/

If the US went to war with Iran they would probably want to censor certain Iranian websites, right? Syrian websites. DPRK websites. Venezuelan websites. Russia of course.

Russiagate is intended to lead to a censorship plan. That is why Trump never mentioned Steven Hatfill even once.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/former-fbi-director-robert-muellers-history-of-cover-ups/5635272

Lots of other criticisms of Mueller Trump could have brought up but did not. Mueller isn't really after Trump and Trump knows that. That is why Trump has been very easy on Mueller.

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@no1marauder said
You grossly overestimate the amount of "strong" Trump supporters; they are 30-35% at best. Erosion of his somewhat support and/or shifts from ambivalent voters could significantly change the present political climate.
35% is an absolutely huge number to have as loyal supporters. By comparison, most European heads of government can only count on a few percent of the population to stand by them no matter what; e.g. François Hollande's approval rating dropped to 4% despite having done a much better job than Trump and not facing dozens of corruption scandals.

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@kazetnagorra said
35% is an absolutely huge number to have as loyal supporters. By comparison, most European heads of government can only count on a few percent of the population to stand by them no matter what; e.g. François Hollande's approval rating dropped to 4% despite having done a much better job than Trump and not facing dozens of corruption scandals.
The number I gave was of those who presently "strongly support" Trump; it does not mean his approval rate couldn't drop below that if things change for the worse esp. in the economy. Nixon was a popular President for most of his term, often polling 60% or better in approval, but by the time of his resignation that had plummeted to 24%. By contrast, Trump has consistently had negative net approval ratings, usually in the double digits.

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Most Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee voted against impeachment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_process_against_Richard_Nixon

That said, that was before the release of the "smoking gun" tape which cratered Republican support and made conviction in the Senate inevitable.

Still, IF Trump's approval rating dropped to Nixionian levels at the end and IF public support for impeachment increased substantially in the coming months, the political situation might change. 22 Senate Republicans are up for re-election next year and they might re-evaluate their position esp. IF Trump looks like a sure loser in 2020 anyway.

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@no1marauder said
Most Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee voted against impeachment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_process_against_Richard_Nixon

That said, that was before the release of the "smoking gun" tape which cratered Republican support and made conviction in the Senate inevitable.

Still, IF Trump's approval rating dropped to Nixionian levels at the end a ...[text shortened]... year and they might re-evaluate their position esp. IF Trump looks like a sure loser in 2020 anyway.
With the amount of smoking guns that have been uncovered so far during the Trump administration you could probably suffocate a football stadium full of people.

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@no1marauder
Under your post title, you clearly should have looked at polling data for the democrats, not Trump

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@kazetnagorra said
With the amount of smoking guns that have been uncovered so far during the Trump administration you could probably suffocate a football stadium full of people.
Hahaha

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@no1marauder said
The wise pundits of the media were virtually unanimous in declaring Mueller's testimony on Wednesday as a "disaster" for the Democrats and a huge political win for the Donald. But a couple of polls taken after that testimony seem to contradict that assessment.

First, there is YouGov's. In its poll taken on July 22-23, 43% approved of Trump, while 49% disapproved. But ...[text shortened]... ons regarding the effect of the public testimony was more accurate than the after the fact punditry.
Truth and justice are just one big poll survey for democrats.

Put your finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing to see if Trump should be impeached.

Either that or they don't really believe the accusations of him being a Putin puppet and criminal.

Then again, they don't seem to want to lock up criminals on the street either.

Hmm. The last place I want to be is inside the head of a Leftist, so I'm outa here!!

Them not wanting to impeach him due to political concerns tells me that the notion that the majority of Americans want him gone is pure BS.

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@whodey said
Truth and justice are just one big poll survey for democrats.

Put your finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing to see if Trump should be impeached.

Them not wanting to impeach him due to political concerns tells me that the notion that the majority of Americans want him gone is pure BS.
Oh, the majority of Americans want him gone alright; they are just not sure impeachment is the way to do it giving the likelihood the Republican Senate would refuse to convict no matter what.

But I'll be curious to see what polls specifically asking opinions about impeachment do after Mueller's testimony.

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@no1marauder said
Oh, the majority of Americans want him gone alright; they are just not sure impeachment is the way to do it giving the likelihood the Republican Senate would refuse to convict no matter what.

But I'll be curious to see what polls specifically asking opinions about impeachment do after Mueller's testimony.
So don't arrest someone who is committing a crime based upon the assumption that they will probably not be thrown in jail by a court of law?

Really?

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