11 Oct 06
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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter1. Requires a functioning school with well-trained teachers, textbooks and facilities. Especially in America where entry into higher education is so relentlessly competitive.
Finish high school.
Do not have children before you are married.
Work full time at a job.
2. While I personally believe that sex should be kept within marriage, your sweeping statement is completely out of touch with modern reality. There are millionaires with children who've never got married. I suspect what you really mean is 'do not have children too young'.
3. Requires a job to be available. An area is poor because most people in it don't have much money. The main reason they don't have much money is because they don't have jobs. The main reason they don't have jobs is because there aren't enough available in the area. You'd be amazed how much the wealth of a community is affected by major employers either opening or closing nearby.
11 Oct 06
Originally posted by VargWhat about the rich smoking those $10.00 or more cigars. I smoked cigarrettes and I make a six figure salary how do you explain that?
Research has identified the region of England with the highest percentage of smokers - 53% are smokers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/6039414.stm
Coincidentally (?) it is also one of the poorest and "deprived" areas.
It has been pointed out that a 20- a day habit costs £1,600 to £1,800 a year!!
Now, to me this doesn't sound very smart - this is ...[text shortened]... pid because they are poor, are they poor and stupid because they smoke?
Seems crazy to me.
11 Oct 06
Originally posted by VargCigarettes are far cheaper entertainment than many other options. For a few dollars you get a whole pack and get a nice little high!
Research has identified the region of England with the highest percentage of smokers - 53% are smokers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/6039414.stm
Coincidentally (?) it is also one of the poorest and "deprived" areas.
It has been pointed out that a 20- a day habit costs £1,600 to £1,800 a year!!
Now, to me this doesn't sound very smart - this is ...[text shortened]... pid because they are poor, are they poor and stupid because they smoke?
Seems crazy to me.
11 Oct 06
Originally posted by slimjimSounds like you could afford it, though.
What about the rich smoking those $10.00 or more cigars. I smoked cigarrettes and I make a six figure salary how do you explain that?
Of course rich people smoke, but I'm sure if you were in a situation where you were desperate for cash then you'd cut out $10 cigars.
12 Oct 06
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterWhat about when your personal business involves the health of the people around you?
Based on their ads for high-cost luxury goods, I’d bet that the readers of “Cigar Aficionado” are quite wealthy. Ultimately though, smoking is not an issue of rich or poor, it’s an issue of freedom of choice. I don’t need the nanny state intruding into my personal business.
12 Oct 06
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Originally posted by chancremechanicI was referring to your forum setting self proclaimed title.🙄
It depends on if you swallow or not....what the F*** are you asking?
edit: your title refers to some fascistic suction
then you observe that:- Lock up all violent criminals for life or place them on a remote Island and let them govern themselves. Drop pedophiles/child murderers from 10,000 ft. w/o a parachute, chop off all rapist's hands and penises, petty thieves are relegated to the chain-gang, cleaning up the streets and roadways....second offenders are sent to prison for life...
to which I replied:-
And the difference between these policies and the people who suck are???
12 Oct 06
Originally posted by UllrAh. Thats because the Government gets around £5 billion a year through taxation on cigarrettes. This is more than they spend on health care for smoking related illnesses (sorry, i can't remember where i read that ). If they banned smoking, this would seriously affect the uk's economy.
We learned from the never ending gun control debate on this forum that the English are more concerned with saving lives than us stupid Americans. It says in the article that ""Smoking is the biggest killer in England"
So that being the case why have the English, with their superior intellect, not banned smoking?
This is why they keep encouraging smoking by telling smokers to stop. They know this is a good way to get a smoker to light up a ciggy. Clever huh?
12 Oct 06
Originally posted by UllrBecause they can enjoy the experience of dying a lot more luxuriously and languidly than those who prefer popping caps into each other.
We learned from the never ending gun control debate on this forum that the English are more concerned with saving lives than us stupid Americans. It says in the article that ""Smoking is the biggest killer in England"
So that being the case why have the English, with their superior intellect, not banned smoking?
12 Oct 06
Originally posted by FrenchQueenYou seem to be suggesting its much cheaper to treat non-smokers for cancer, alzheimers, heart disease, kidney failure, aids, ... etc?
Exactly, they've got their priorities completely wrong.. Oh yes, I've noticed the satellite dishes too and the flashy mobile phones and bikes that a lot of the poor kids have; it's all about status, and come to think of it, the Poor are possibly the most materialistic group. Then when people get ill through smoking, we pick up the bill for all the expensive NHS treatments etc . . . 😞
Accidents aside, everyone dies of some ailment or other and it all costs, whether its smoking related or not - it just happens sooner for smokers.
13 Oct 06
Originally posted by twiceaknight...and the beauty of it all is that the NHS can refuse treatment on the grounds that the patient is a smoker. Neat huh?
Ah. Thats because the Government gets around £5 billion a year through taxation on cigarrettes. This is more than they spend on health care for smoking related illnesses (sorry, i can't remember where i read that ). If they banned smoking, this would seriously affect the uk's economy.
This is why they keep encouraging smoking by telling smokers to stop. They know this is a good way to get a smoker to light up a ciggy. Clever huh?
