13 Jul 22
@metal-brain saidNor have you ever claimed to have seen Elvis in a Walmart in NJ. Wow. That ratchets your credibility up a notch. To - 49,998.
I have never posted any aliens from outer space on here...ever!
I have never posted fake moon landing theories....ever!
I have standards.
Hillary Clinton is a conspiracy theorist. She openly said there was a vast right wing conspiracy to get them. She was behind the Steele Dossier, a fabricated conspiracy theory. Woodrow Wilson spoke of a political conspiracy. In ...[text shortened]... ually very common.
Everybody believes conspiracy theories except for mentally handicapped people.
13 Jul 22
@shavixmir saidClearly humans have a weakness for believing false conspiracy theories.
https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p0clbp99/the-psychology-behind-conspiracy-theories
It’s a five minute BBC film. And very interesting (although not very indepth).
The basic summary is two-fold:
- certain personality types are more inclined to believe in conspiracy theories (narcissists for example).
- conspiracy theories offer stability, where as facts basically offer ...[text shortened]... ab hold of stabalising theories to make sense of the world.
Beautiful really. How the mind works.
Once you construct a narrative, you can hang on to that narrative no matter what new evidence emerges by presuming there are more people in on the conspiracy than you thought before.
The inclination applies to Democrats and Republicans.
But you'd be remiss to overlook something obvious. It is the nature of mankind, especially those in power, to conspire together in all sorts of dishonest endeavors. One take away is that no "conspiracy theory" is ever proved false by merely observing it is a conspiracy theory. Even though many or most conspiracy theories are bogus, it is a indisputable fact that some of them are going to be true.
13 Jul 22
@techsouth saidI agree. For example, there was indeed a conspiracy to steal the 2020 election, just not the one Trump was telling. It was the one Trump was doing.
Clearly humans have a weakness for believing false conspiracy theories.
Once you construct a narrative, you can hang on to that narrative no matter what new evidence emerges by presuming there are more people in on the conspiracy than you thought before.
The inclination applies to Democrats and Republicans.
But you'd be remiss to overlook something obvious. It is ...[text shortened]... ost conspiracy theories are bogus, it is a indisputable fact that some of them are going to be true.
@moonbus saidI generally would consider this to be something not knowable without near unlimited access to secret, inside information.
I agree. For example, there was indeed a conspiracy to steal the 2020 election, just not the one Trump was telling. It was the one Trump was doing.
But, the count is up to 1,487,312.
If this assertion is repeated just 12,688 more times, it officially becomes fact.
I'm confused.
So conspiracies don't exist?
Evil people don't plot things in secret?
Secret meetings don't exist?
In wars there is no bias, no lies and no exaggerations?
Wealthy elites never lie to people?
Whistleblowers are all liars?
Official history books are all written by totally unbiased, fair and truthful writers?
Mainstream journalists are all 100% honest and fair, but independent journalists are all liars?
13 Jul 22
@techsouth saidEvidence is mounting, despite concerted efforts to keep the matter from being investigated.
I generally would consider this to be something not knowable without near unlimited access to secret, inside information.
But, the count is up to 1,487,312.
If this assertion is repeated just 12,688 more times, it officially becomes fact.
13 Jul 22
@bunnyknight saidOf course conspiracies exist. And conspiracy theories are not all false. Only the false ones are false. DUH!
I'm confused.
So conspiracies don't exist?
Evil people don't plot things in secret?
Secret meetings don't exist?
In wars there is no bias, no lies and no exaggerations?
Wealthy elites never lie to people?
Whistleblowers are all liars?
Official history books are all written by totally unbiased, fair and truthful writers?
Mainstream journalists are all 100% honest and fair, but independent journalists are all liars?
13 Jul 22
@bunnyknight saidGood point.
I'm confused.
So conspiracies don't exist?
Evil people don't plot things in secret?
Secret meetings don't exist?
In wars there is no bias, no lies and no exaggerations?
Wealthy elites never lie to people?
Whistleblowers are all liars?
Official history books are all written by totally unbiased, fair and truthful writers?
Mainstream journalists are all 100% honest and fair, but independent journalists are all liars?
13 Jul 22
@techsouth saidLike this site!
Indeed.
One side gets kicked off of social media for stating their case. The other side faces no repercussions for any allegation whether true or false.
13 Jul 22
@techsouth saidTrial by social media sets a bad precedent. That’s why there is the rule of law, with power of subpoena.
Indeed.
One side gets kicked off of social media for stating their case. The other side faces no repercussions for any allegation whether true or false.
13 Jul 22
@techsouth saidSometimes a conspiracy theory is a choice.
Clearly humans have a weakness for believing false conspiracy theories.
Once you construct a narrative, you can hang on to that narrative no matter what new evidence emerges by presuming there are more people in on the conspiracy than you thought before.
The inclination applies to Democrats and Republicans.
But you'd be remiss to overlook something obvious. It is ...[text shortened]... ost conspiracy theories are bogus, it is a indisputable fact that some of them are going to be true.
My case in point is the election fraud in 2020.
When nearly half of the Trump support base has been coerced into believing that God put Trump into the White House, only to watch democracy kick him out, what are they to think of the democratic system.
In order to keep up the belief (some may say facade) that democracy is still viable, someone came up with the "someone cheated" narrative.
This choice between accepting "election fraud" over "democracy is no longer valid" gave the believers a way out of their ideological dilemma.
Keeps the sheep in line.
Just my thoughts.
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13 Jul 22
@moonbus saidThe second half of that is true, the first is not. Many, many people are powerless and disenfranchised. The poor, those with physical or mental disadvantages, those whom neurotypical society does not accept. But those are, by and large, not the ones with entitlement. Those last, by contrast, are the ones who are adequately well off, but jealous of people who are actually rich. (See also: averageJoe and PillowGuy.)
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There is another psychological factor involved in those who tend to latch onto such theories: the powerless and disenfranchised, the people who feel life owes them something and especially those who feel life has cheated them out of some entitlement.
Please don't blame the poor or the struggling for the state this world is in. They didn't do it. The rich-enough-but-jealous Boomers did.
13 Jul 22
@mghrn55 saidThe essential thing about democracy is not how people get into office, but how they get OUT: on schedule and without violence. Donald doesn’t play by those rules;Donald’s rule book says “Donald always wins, no matter what the actual vote count was.” Therein lies a difficulty.
Sometimes a conspiracy theory is a choice.
My case in point is the election fraud in 2020.
When nearly half of the Trump support base has been coerced into believing that God put Trump into the White House, only to watch democracy kick him out, what are they to think of the democratic system.
In order to keep up the belief (some may say facade) that democracy is still ...[text shortened]... he believers a way out of their ideological dilemma.
Keeps the sheep in line.
Just my thoughts.