Queen Elizabeth is Dead

@metal-brain said
He cannot deal with a leaky pen?
Oh, the world is coming to an end! He cannot bear it.
If that were only the problems I could have. I could bear it.

https://humansbefree.com/2022/09/the-eulogy-of-queen-elizabeth-ii-that-you-wont-see-on-your-tv.html

It is incredible that you nitpick over King Charles and his pen incident and yet shove your head up your arse over Trump and his fiascos.

@kevcvs57 said
At the same time if I can stomp up the Royal Mile Edinburgh in full uniform at 73 I’ll be quite impressed with myself.
He was signing quite an important document live on the telly just after his mother died, he’s allowed to have a bit of a meltdown.
His obvious error was to choose the fountain pen.

Nice work on this thread Kev.

The Monarchy needs a lot of reform (imo), but we (GB) absolutely need the Monarchy itself.

@divegeester said
It is incredible that you nitpick over King Charles and his pen incident and yet shove your head up your arse over Trump and his fiascos.

Charles cannot be a man and move things out of his way himself. He has to grimace so someone else does it for him. Does he need someone else to wipe his ass too?

@divegeester said
Nice work on this thread Kev.

The Monarchy needs a lot of reform (imo), but we (GB) absolutely need the Monarchy itself.

What do you need the Monarchy for?

@divegeester said
Nice work on this thread Kev.

The Monarchy needs a lot of reform (imo), but we (GB) absolutely need the Monarchy itself.

They’ve just had to ask people to stop coming to the viewing / vigil because the queue is already 24hrs long so they / she must have got a lot of stuff right.
MB will never grasp the nuanced relationship that a constitutional monarchy has with its people or body politic but the more I look around the world at the division and violence caused by other forms of ‘Head of State’ as they crowbar their way into power the more I value our constitutional settlement, for us anyway. Think about a Boris or a Jeremy with the power of a president, it sends shivers up my spine.

@metal-brain said
Does he need someone else to wipe his ass too?

You looking for a job?
Might be beyond your skill set.

@metal-brain said
What do you need the Monarchy for?

Read up on Constitutional Monarchy. Read up on Privy Council. Then take a deep breath and work out why England and the UK and all the members of the British Commonwealth, will never descend into the chaos and insanity that America is currently running headlong into.

Instead of asking why, you should say, because we have a Constitutional Monarchy, there are certain common sense and common law conventions and protections that are very hard to overwrite and dismiss, in complete contrast to the US that can have it's very Constitutional essence eroded by a Supreme Court stacked by political appointees with ideological axes to grind.

@divegeester said
It is incredible that you nitpick over King Charles and his pen incident and yet shove your head up your arse over Trump and his fiascos.

Remember when Elizabeth II had to lead Orange Littlehands safely down a shallow staircase?

@kevcvs57 said
MB will never grasp the nuanced relationship that a constitutional monarchy has with its people or body politic

Nor will any Russian, let alone a USAnian.

but the more I look around the world at the division and violence caused by other forms of ‘Head of State’ as they crowbar their way into power the more I value our constitutional settlement, for us anyway. Think about a Boris or a Jeremy with the power of a president, it sends shivers up my spine.

Precisely. This is exactly why I am not so much a monarchist as an anti-republican.

@kmax87 said
Read up on Constitutional Monarchy. Read up on Privy Council. Then take a deep breath and work out why England and the UK and all the members of the British Commonwealth, will never descend into the chaos and insanity that America is currently running headlong into.

And look at the countries which are regularly voted happiest, best developed, most equal, most free - and then realise that that list always includes Sweden, Norway, Denmark and the Netherlands. All of them constitutional monarchies. Where would you rather live: Belgium, Luxemburg, Uzbekistan or Liberia?

@shallow-blue said
Nor will any Russian, let alone a USAnian.

but the more I look around the world at the division and violence caused by other forms of ‘Head of State’ as they crowbar their way into power the more I value our constitutional settlement, for us anyway. Think about a Boris or a Jeremy with the power of a president, it sends shivers up my spine.

Precisely. This is exactly why I am not so much a monarchist as an anti-republican.

Then we probably inhabit the same space on that one. No monarch should have any real power in the 21st century.
To me presidents are monarchs and potential monarchs who fight over the crown every four or five years and when they get the throne they are invested with a dangerous amount of power.

@kmax87 said
Read up on Constitutional Monarchy. Read up on Privy Council. Then take a deep breath and work out why England and the UK and all the members of the British Commonwealth, will never descend into the chaos and insanity that America is currently running headlong into.

Instead of asking why, you should say, because we have a Constitutional Monarchy, there are certain common s ...[text shortened]... al essence eroded by a Supreme Court stacked by political appointees with ideological axes to grind.

That was a long winded way to say you don't know what you need them for.
This is what I get from most Brits. They are powerless figureheads, but we need them. We don't really know why. It is just tradition I guess.

Why don't you just admit you are fond of tradition?

@metal-brain said
That was a long winded way to say you don't know what you need them for.
This is what I get from most Brits. They are powerless figureheads, but we need them. We don't really know why. It is just tradition I guess.

Why don't you just admit you are fond of tradition?

WE WANT THEM YOU ILLITERATE HALFWIT! THEY SERVE OUR PURPOSES OF CONTINUITY AND THE SOCIAL GEL OF TRADITION.
WHAT WE DO NOT WANT IS A TRUMP OR A CLINTON OR UNLIKE YOU A SCUMBAG PUTIN.
YOU REALLY SHOULD BE BANNED FOR BEING TOO THICK TO DEBATE.

@kevcvs57 said
WE WANT THEM YOU ILLITERATE HALFWIT! THEY SERVE OUR PURPOSES OF CONTINUITY AND THE SOCIAL GEL OF TRADITION.
WHAT WE DO NOT WANT IS A TRUMP OR A CLINTON OR UNLIKE YOU A SCUMBAG PUTIN.
YOU REALLY SHOULD BE BANNED FOR BEING TOO THICK TO DEBATE.

You want them to keep leaching off of you when they are not needed.
Nice tradition. You are even paying for her funeral. Can't they afford it?

@metal-brain said
This is what I get from most Brits. They are powerless figureheads, but we need them.

You really don't read any of the replies to your posts, do you, you Russian asset? You just post stupid excrement for the sake of disagreeing with anyone and everyone.

For the last time, and you clearly won't even bother to read this so this really will be the last time: we don't need them despite them being powerless figureheads, we want them because they are powerless figureheads, and therefore not such psychopathic, pillaging, power-grabbing, fraudulent mass-murderers as your two masters and owners, Trump and Putin.