20 Mar 06
Originally posted by buddy2I do indeed disagree with the lessening of the American freedom and the increasing of taxes. There are a lot of things wrong with this country and indeed if it continues down this road, we'll be having another Civil War in about 20 years.
Rush is another one of those pear shaped non-combatants (like the rest surrounding Bush) always advocating war to solve problems. I'm sorry for what happened 9/11--not just for all those innocent lives lost, but because these right-wing nuts will use it as the ultimate excuse for doing anything they want, including raising the national debt to 9 trillion and ...[text shortened]... ords. My only question is--can Bush completely ruin the country in the two years he has left?
However, there are indeed many things Bush has done right and no one seems to give him that. Kerry never would have gone after the terrorists and we most likely would have been attacked yet again. Since 9/11, there has been how many terrorist attacks in the US? None. Bush must be doing something right. In history, there are those who will not listen and will not reason. The 21st century has brought us Jihadists who will only listen when they are 6 feet under and unable to respond. We need to get rid of them before they get rid of us.
And if we want to make the US look like Satan's empire, let me ask you liberals this: Why don't we continue to blame all the other countries for their actions. The British Empire conquered and killed thousands of people all through the 19th century. So did most of Europe to think of it. The Soviets did the same. And Germany gave us Hitler. Why do we not rail on and on and beat this countries into the ground? The US didn't conquer anything or move anywhere during its 200 plus years. We've only ever protected ourselves and this ungrateful world. Personally, I'm sick of it and I think if the world believes they can do it without us, so be it.
20 Mar 06
Originally posted by IorekRonald Reagan has a clearer sense of history than is reflected in this post. Your errors of fact and analysis run so deep that I am at a loss as to where to begin to straighten you out.
I do indeed disagree with the lessening of the American freedom and the increasing of taxes. There are a lot of things wrong with this country and indeed if it continues down this road, we'll be having another Civil War in about 20 years.
However, there are indeed many things Bush has done right and no one seems to give him that. Kerry never would have gone ...[text shortened]... lly, I'm sick of it and I think if the world believes they can do it without us, so be it.
We might begin with:
September 13, 2001 -- Less than 24 hours after the terrorist attacks against the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington, D.C., and well before there was any substantive information about the culprits, six bullets ripped through the windows of a Dallas, Texas, mosque.
To Bush's credit, he spoke out against this form of domestic terrorism, although his administration has not made combating it a real priority.
20 Mar 06
Originally posted by WulebgrRonald Reagan = Wisest man this country has probably ever seen in office.
Ronald Reagan has a clearer sense of history than is reflected in this post. Your errors of fact and analysis run so deep that I am at a loss as to where to begin to straighten you out.
We might begin with:
September 13, 2001 -- Less than 24 hours after the terrorist attacks against the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington, D. ...[text shortened]... m of domestic terrorism, although his administration has not made combating it a real priority.
While I don't condone hate crimes, wouldn't you be just a tiny bit upset if Muslims just ran a plane into your brothers office building? And I'm sorry, was this a terrorist attack? There have been hate crimes over the past 60 years against Jews. Everyday a bomb goes off in Israel killing innocent people, but we rarely hear about that do we? And the millions of Christians that are massacared every single year? We NEVER hear about that. God forbid.
And I'd say cutting off Al-Qaeda's funding right at the source was probably a pretty good way of combatting it, wouldn't you say?
20 Mar 06
Originally posted by IorekYou already have:
While I don't condone hate crimes
Originally posted by Iorek
The 21st century has brought us Jihadists who will only listen when they are 6 feet under and unable to respond. We need to get rid of them before they get rid of us.
Prior to a suicide attack, how do you distinguish a jihadist from one who simply wants the United States out of Saudi Arabia, and is willing to fight for this principled view? I rather suspect that you will resort to hate crimes first, and ask questions when they are buried deeply enough to listen.
Hate crimes are terrorism.
Reagan was many things, including the most important U.S. President in the second half of the Twentieth century. But, wisdom was hardly one of his strengths. Just ask Michael Deaver if you disbelieve me.
20 Mar 06
Originally posted by IorekHow many were there in the United States prior to 9/11? You need a broader picture if you wish to evaluate the success of Bush's "war on terror".
Since 9/11, there has been how many terrorist attacks in the US?
In 2004, terrorism attacks tripled over previous years.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7643286/
20 Mar 06
Originally posted by WulebgrOkay, let me rephrase, I don't condone hate crimes against Muslims who are trying to reform their religion into something peaceful. I however will kill any scum of the earth who comes after me and/or kills the innocent just because they don't believe the same. That would be exactly what Jihadists are. There is a difference between a 'Jihadist' and a 'Muslim'.
You already have:
Originally posted by Iorek
[b]The 21st century has brought us Jihadists who will only listen when they are 6 feet under and unable to respond. We need to get rid of them before they get rid of us.
Prior to a suicide attack, how do you distinguish a jihadist from one who simply wants the United States out of Saudi Arabia, a ...[text shortened]... tury. But, wisdom was hardly one of his strengths. Just ask Michael Deaver if you disbelieve me.[/b]
I would pretty much say that you identify them by their actions and condone of such activities. My guess would be that if you are a Muslim agreeing with the mass murder of the innocent, you are probably a jihadist. The basis of the entire Islamic religion is death to the infadels. Don't believe me, pick up the Koran and have at.
20 Mar 06
Originally posted by WulebgrExactly my point. What did we do to suddenly deserve to have 3,000 innocent people murdered? Were we killing of the Muslims? Were we in Iraq, Afghanistan, or any Middle Eastern country for that matter, enforcing law with our military?
How many were there in the United States prior to 9/11? You need a broader picture if you wish to evaluate the success of Bush's "war on terror".
In 2004, terrorism attacks tripled over previous years.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7643286/
The attacks triple because they are cowardly dogs who kill the innocent to make a point.
20 Mar 06
Originally posted by IorekHaving read the Qur'an, I'd say the emphasis concerns the magnificence of Allah.
The basis of the entire Islamic religion is death to the infadels (sic). Don't believe me, pick up the Koran and have at.
Perhaps you are confusing the Hebrew scriptures with the Qur'an. The so-called Old Testament is more strongly focused on promoting genocide against Israel's enemies than anything in the Qur'an against infidels.
20 Mar 06
Originally posted by IorekI didn't claim it was unjustified, but was simply making the point that you have the facts wrong.
I wonder why.🙄And that was agreed on by the UN and its conglomorates(sp). Pick up a history book now.
I've read thousands of books of history, and have contributed to a few as well. Which one do you think I've missed?
20 Mar 06
Originally posted by Iorekthis is laughable. YOU will kill any scum...? i imagine that if you were faced with some angry ak47 weilding militant muslims, you would barely be able to keep from wetting yourself. these men live with death and killing on a daily basis. you do not. you are unspeakably soft by their standards. our soldiers are unspeakably soft by their standards. furthermore, it is ignorance to say that the basis of the entire religion of islam is death to infidels. you can say you're a scholar of the quran for all i care, i won't believe you. it is just as well to say that the basis of the entire religion of christianity is killing infidels. i also really wish to reply to your unabashed praise of reagan but i realize that such sentiment is not the product of rational thought, but rather idealogical fancy and as such, no rational argument can be brought ot bear on it. also, aren't you ready to kill innocents? it seems that one of the costs for this "war on terror" that only bush was able to mastermind is a rather large number of innocents killed. you may not countenance killing innocents purely for their beliefs, but then it's easy enough to make them into monsters just for having those beliefs, isn't it?
Okay, let me rephrase, I don't condone hate crimes against Muslims who are trying to reform their religion into something peaceful. I however will kill any scum of the earth who comes after me and/or kills the innocent just because they don't believe the same. That would be exactly what Jihadists are. There is a difference between a 'Jihadist' and a 'Muslim'. ...[text shortened]... lamic religion is death to the infadels. Don't believe me, pick up the Koran and have at.
21 Mar 06
well, everyone should remember that the first victim of emotion is rational thought. so calm down.
The world is constantly changing and in the more developed countries that most of us belong to the world changes by the minute and we can watch ti any time we wish. The third world is still stuck in a middle aged society with corresponding values. Religion is a great boon to people, but ussually a bane to societies. It commands too much control. The west is free because we have limits on religious powers and influence.
Reagan was a great man, but mostly because he was the right person, in the right place, at the right time. I am always amazed that people forget the importance of the founding fathers. This country has never produced a second Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, or Hamilton. Read up. Unique individuals whose creation is our wasted freedom. We are slowly giving it up. I fear for my children, but not because of terrorists. I think the socialists in this country are much more dangerous. Democrats piss me off!🙄
