Shahar Peer

Originally posted by generalissimo
pot doesn't improve your performance, in fact its more likely to do the opposite.

the ban was unnecessary.

I'm not interested to see any drug junkies play when the tickets are so expensive. I don't miss her.
Get rid of the junkies. Get clean or get out.

Originally posted by FMF
It seems that Dubai has made its point, then.

Look Dude 84, some poeple - including many Israelis - were outraged by what happened 2 months ago. If you think that this means that I hate Jews, then that is your prerogative. If you think I am unaware of what has happened to Jews for thousands of years, and that this means I am in some sort of historical denial, ...[text shortened]... iabin.

But, at the very least, Dubai's anti-Zionist political gesture got you thinking.

I never said anything about you being an anti semite! Mr selfish thinks everything is always about him!!!

Supporting Hamas will get everybody nowhere because they are pure unbridled evil. They are Mordor!

I don't think you're an anti semite for supporing them, perhaps naive. There's lots of good reasons to support something terrible.

To be clear, I am in favour of whoever is going to support the Palestinians and restore their dignity. They have none now, but it's their leaders fault, not Israels. I'm not saying you think I think this, but I'll make it clear on one of these threads that I'm Pro Israeli and Pro Palestinian. I am anti terrorism, and supporting a group of religious fanatics dedicated to ethnic cleansing I kind think isn't cool!

Originally posted by FabianFnas
I'm not interested to see any drug junkies play when the tickets are so expensive. I don't miss her.
Get rid of the junkies. Get clean or get out.

Shahar Peer wasn't/isn't a junkie. Reread the first post you have misunderstood the thread I'm afraid...

Originally posted by The Dude 84
I never said anything about you being an anti semite! Mr selfish thinks everything is always about him!!!

Supporting Hamas will get everybody nowhere because they are pure unbridled evil. They are Mordor!

It seems you cannot help yourself. Almost every time you post you insinuate that those who don't see it your own shrill and simplistic way (1) is an anti-semite, (2) a supporter of Hamas, (3) ignorant of history. Then you like pulling back from these things and insisting you were misunderstood. It's difficult to talk about anything with you.

Originally posted by FMF
It seems you cannot help yourself. Almost every time you post you insinuate that those who don't see it your own shrill and simplistic way (1) is an anti-semite, (2) a supporter of Hamas, (3) ignorant of history. Then you like pulling back from these things and insisting you were misunderstood. It's difficult to talk about anything with you.

Why would I agree with someone who I don't agree with? By the way, saying that I see things in a simplistic way because I make a simple statement is nonsense. That's like calling Einstein simplistic for saying "E=mc squared". I'm not saying I have his depth but surely you understand my point.

Obviously I think there's a gap in understanding with everyone I don't agree with, or else I wouldn't disagree with them.

Just because I don't think you're an anti-semite doesn't mean I agree with you.

Wouldn't it be more problematic if I didn't have a reason to disagree with the people who I disagree with? Am I misunderstanding your point?

Originally posted by The Dude 84
Am I misunderstanding your point?

Yes.

Originally posted by FMF
Imagine if all the Jews were herded into the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Imagine if they were then subjected collective punishment, humiliations and deprivations heaped upon humiliations and deprivations, borders sealed, water turned off, electricity turned off, medical supplies stopped at checkpoints...

Can Gaza Be Rebuilt Through Tunnels?
The Blockade Continues—No Supplies, No Rebuilding

see: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/02/24

Is this Israel's best move now?

Originally posted by The Dude 84
Shahar Peer wasn't/isn't a junkie. Reread the first post you have misunderstood the thread I'm afraid...

Sorry, if I misunderstood. She is not smoking pot? Oh, that changes my feelings toward her. Shahar, my apologies.

My opinion about illegal drugs and sport is not changed however...

So why was she banned? What was the official reason?

Originally posted by FabianFnas
Sorry, if I misunderstood. She is not smoking pot? Oh, that changes my feelings toward her. Shahar, my apologies.

My opinion about illegal drugs and sport is not changed however...

So why was she banned? What was the official reason?

The official reason was that residents were upset about Gaza and the tournament officials feared for her safety if she played there.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
The official reason was that residents were upset about Gaza and the tournament officials feared for her safety if she played there.

I think they should have provided security, instead of removing her.

Originally posted by generalissimo
I think they should have provided security, instead of removing her.

Why? Don't you see that they were cocking the snook at Israel? How would they have registered their lame little protest if they had provided security, instead of removing her?

Originally posted by SwissGambit
The official reason was that residents were upset about Gaza and the tournament officials feared for her safety if she played there.

So she didn't get banned then, it was only a safety measurement? Sounds logical to me. If I were in the same position, then I would also want to feel safe.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
So she didn't get banned then, it was only a safety measurement? Sounds logical to me. If I were in the same position, then I would also want to feel safe.

She did get banned - she was denied a visa, and thus could not enter the country.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
She [b]did get banned - she was denied a visa, and thus could not enter the country.[/b]

But that had nothing to do with tennis then? She didn't get banned because of her playing tennis?

Is there a consipiracy going here?

Originally posted by FabianFnas
But that had nothing to do with tennis then? She didn't get banned because of her playing tennis?

Is there a consipiracy going here?

They banned her to protest Israel's recent actions in Gaza. Tennis indeed had nothing to do with it.