21 Jan 07
Originally posted by Dace AceActually, unionizing would be a great idea if the goal was to reduce prostotution. Unions are great at reducing the demand for the products and services of the industry they represent.
Unionize are you nuts!! A union hooker will be too expensive, move too slow, and will ask for extra to cover her medical & retirement!!
21 Jan 07
Originally posted by MerkProstitutes don't develop STD's on their own, they are often given to them by their clients - as my earlier post says, maybe the clients should have a clean bill of health before being allowed near these women. The men should be using condoms anyway!
Legalizing is a long way from making prostotution safe. Yes, it would very likely go a long way toward reducing the assaults these women received if prostitution was carried out in a more controlled environment. This does not equate to a reduction in STDs. That's were the public health arguement comes in. If private business cannot allow people to engage in a l ...[text shortened]... n. STDs spread to people not involved with prostitution much like smoking effects non smokers.
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21 Jan 07
Originally posted by Pawn QweenSure. You can make it law to use condoms. I imagine most prostitutes require that anyway. That doesn't mean accidents won't happen or people won't break the law. A clean bill of health is only good for the moment the tests are taken. These men could get an STD weeks, days, or even hours the get their test. You can regulate prostitution to the point of almost driving it back underground and it still won't make prostitution safe.
Prostitutes don't develop STD's on their own, they are often given to them by their clients - as my earlier post says, maybe the clients should have a clean bill of health before being allowed near these women. The men should be using condoms anyway!
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21 Jan 07
Originally posted by MerkI agree, and I don't think prostitution can be totally regulated because it goes on at so many different levels.
Sure. You can make it law to use condoms. I imagine most prostitutes require that anyway. That doesn't mean accidents won't happen or people won't break the law. A clean bill of health is only good for the moment the tests are taken. These men could get an STD weeks, days, or even hours the get their test. You can regulate prostitution to the point of almost driving it back underground and it still won't make prostitution safe.
21 Jan 07
Originally posted by arrakisI agree that adult prostitution should be legal. I forget that it's not, because it's such a common practice. If it is to be controlled and taxed, though, then I would prefer the money be spent on giving (especially) women and girls at risk other opportunities for their future, such as job skills, life skills, etc. I also believe that if it's to be regulated, that should be a two-way street. Let men have a photo ID stating that they have a clean bill of health and aren't mass murderers. It drives me nuts that currently (in a stereotypical scenario) it's nearly always the women who gets arrested while the male customers aren't.
I say it's time we made it legal so that it can be controlled, taxed and safe.
The woman would be required to maintain a license. In order to keep the license active the woman would undergo a physical examination by a doctor every day.
Here are some sites that have good arguments about this:
The Case for Legalized Prostitution
by Paul Armentano, De ...[text shortened]... /28/lfm270.shtml
Legalized Prostitution
http://www.liberator.net/articles/prostitution.html
I think purveyors and customers of child prostitutes should be severely injured, at the very least.
21 Jan 07
Originally posted by Remora91I am not condemning anyone. All I am saying is that I think the practice of sexually exploiting women for a profit is not beneficial in the long run to the women nor to those that take advantage of such exploitation not to society as a whole.
Funny how you don't post in the porn thread anymore. We have the potential to make prostitution safe, and yet we choose to condemn these girls because we find it "immoral."
As far as me not posting in the porn thread anymore, I felt that I had said all that I needed to. You either agree or do not agree with my points.
21 Jan 07
Originally posted by lauseyI think you will find that immoral behavior that is rewarded by material gain is undesirable. Also, the more $$$ involved the more widespread the immorality becomes and the more tempting it becomes to practice. Do you find any behavior immoral? If so, what if it were legalized and people were being exploited to become immoral or continue to be immoral via that almighty dollar. How would you feel?
What do you think prostitution is? Take the money transaction* out of it and it is just casual sex. You just threw drugs into it to make your weak argument have a little more impact.
*Not always money, by definition:
The term prostitution refers to the act of having sexual intercourse or performing other sexual acts, explicitly for material compensation ...[text shortened]... d up in a different way to how most people perceive it.
Drugs isn't endemic to prostitution.
21 Jan 07
Originally posted by reader1107They should be treated as any other pedophile.
I agree that adult prostitution should be legal. I forget that it's not, because it's such a common practice. If it is to be controlled and taxed, though, then I would prefer the money be spent on giving (especially) women and girls at risk other opportunities for their future, such as job skills, life skills, etc. I also believe that if it's to be reg ...[text shortened]... urveyors and customers of child prostitutes should be severely injured, at the very least.
21 Jan 07
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Originally posted by whodeyThat's possible. It's really none of your business though, if you plan to use that argument to stick your nose in it and try to control what prostitutes and Johns do.
I am not condemning anyone. All I am saying is that I think the practice of sexually exploiting women for a profit is not beneficial in the long run to the women nor to those that take advantage of such exploitation not to society as a whole.
As far as me not posting in the porn thread anymore, I felt that I had said all that I needed to. You either agree or do not agree with my points.
21 Jan 07
Originally posted by whodeyWell, if we create programs and jobs saved for women who choose to leave the profession, it's not exploiting them. And prostitution wouldn't harm society at all if we legalized and regulated it. You used the example in the porn thread of how we don't allow strip clubs in residential areas, and then said what we don't think about is where these people live and that they go home to right next to us. The reason we don't allow these businesses in residential areas is because we don't want our children to be woken up in the middle of the night to loud music and a neon naked lady across the street. However, I have no problem with a stripper living next to me. They've got to have a roof over their head too, right?
I am not condemning anyone. All I am saying is that I think the practice of sexually exploiting women for a profit is not beneficial in the long run to the women nor to those that take advantage of such exploitation not to society as a whole.
As far as me not posting in the porn thread anymore, I felt that I had said all that I needed to. You either agree or do not agree with my points.
21 Jan 07
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Originally posted by Remora91What if she was a pot-crazed Negro stripper?!?!?!? You do know what pot does to those Negroes right?!
Well, if we create programs and jobs saved for women who choose to leave the profession, it's not exploiting them. And prostitution wouldn't harm society at all if we legalized and regulated it. You used the example in the porn thread of how we don't allow strip clubs in residential areas, and then said what we don't think about is where these people live a with a stripper living next to me. They've got to have a roof over their head too, right?
marijuana caused "Negro" and Mexican "viciousness"
http://www.jackherer.com/chapter13.html
21 Jan 07
Originally posted by whodeyWho are you to say what is immoral when it does not harm anyone besides the participating individuals?
I think you will find that immoral behavior that is rewarded by material gain is undesirable. Also, the more $$$ involved the more widespread the immorality becomes and the more tempting it becomes to practice. Do you find any behavior immoral? If so, what if it were legalized and people were being exploited to become immoral or continue to be immoral via that almighty dollar. How would you feel?
