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@kevcvs57 saidWhich imaginary creature are you going on about? and how does it fit into gender dysphoria? Please explain, I do not follow you. I have never foisted any of my beliefs on you. as a matter of fact I have never mentioned anything ' Religious ' to you. I do believe you are a moron, if that is what you mean.
Ha the guy who worships an imaginary creature demands that logic be employed 😂
Maybe religious people should be required to take therapy for their ‘reality dysphoria instead of foisting their BS beliefs on other people.
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@vivify saidHow do they know it always existed.? Stop making up lies. So something came from nothing. Science does not support this. Something created everything. For something like matter to always exist a cop out for not REALLY knowing what MADE matter.
Scientists don't claim that. The Bing Bang came from matter that always existed.
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@boonon saidAnd what made the thing that made matter. And what made that thing. Etc
How do they know it always existed.? Stop making up lies. So something came from nothing. Science does not support this. Something created everything. For something like matter to always exist a cop out for not REALLY knowing what MADE matter.
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@athousandyoung saidGod , the creator of heaven and earth.
And what made the thing that made matter. And what made that thing. Etc
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@vivify saidThe argument by design stuff is pretty legit, though...
"Matter can neither be created nor destroyed"---Law of Conservation of Energy
Look this up, buddy. You are embarrassingly ignorant.
The idea that matter was already just there, with something existing by default, and then being put into motion while obeying a complex set of natural laws that is conducive to life... but, really, only life on one planet... and that expans ever outwardly until we hit heat death,, IDK, it is not a persuasive model of how a godless universe exists.
Of course, it doesn't have to be persuasive. It just has to be true.
Nonetheless, you can't call people stupid for rejecting this. It is not the most logical model for explaining existence.
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@boonon said
God , the creator of heaven and earth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_the_creator_of_God
In philosophy, the problem of the creator of God is the controversy regarding the hypothetical cause responsible for the existence of God, on the assumption God exists. It contests the proposition that the universe cannot exist without a creator by asserting that the creator of the Universe must have the same restrictions. This, in turn, may lead to a problem of infinite regress wherein each new presumed creator of a creator is itself presumed to have its own creator. A common challenge to theistic propositions of a creator deity as a necessary first-cause explanation for the universe is the question: "Who created God?"
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@athousandyoung saidMore dribble from men. You cannot explain so you , they make up words. I'm glad you believe that everything existed all by itself, seems so reasonable.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_the_creator_of_God
In philosophy, the problem of the creator of God is the controversy regarding the hypothetical cause responsible for the existence of God, on the assumption God exists. It contests the proposition that the universe cannot exist without a creator by asserting that the creator of the Universe must have ...[text shortened]... as a necessary first-cause explanation for the universe is the question: "Who created God?"
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@athousandyoung saidummmm, are you ignoring the link that you asked for in the thread? Waiting for you explain Obama's words to me. Or should I just look up some wikipedia page for your response.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_the_creator_of_God
In philosophy, the problem of the creator of God is the controversy regarding the hypothetical cause responsible for the existence of God, on the assumption God exists. It contests the proposition that the universe cannot exist without a creator by asserting that the creator of the Universe must have ...[text shortened]... as a necessary first-cause explanation for the universe is the question: "Who created God?"