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Stop blaming rap (part 2)

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@vivify said
This is pointless.

You already admitted you're racist. Your opinions are driven by hate. You are beyond reason. Facts don't matter to someone who sees nothing wrong being racist trash.
You have presented no facts. Get the facts yourself. Find out
- % of black homes that are broken
- No. of black kids without fathers
- No. of black youths in jail
- No. of blacks who are high school dropouts

Get the facts.
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wow…tried to post the lyrics here but mods prevented.

Is this really what you listen to?

http://www.songlyrics.com/kendrick-lamar/humble-lyrics/

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@mott-the-hoople said
wow…tried to post the lyrics here but mods prevented.

Is this really what you listen to?

http://www.songlyrics.com/kendrick-lamar/humble-lyrics/
Its a simple matter. The lyrics reflect the mentality of the people performing.

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I don't care if anyone likes rap or not. That's not the purpose of this post.

My issue is people blaming rap music as responsible for the social issues blacks face rather than systemic racism in the U.S. Not only is this a flawed argument, it's also outdated, since rap music has drastically changed from it's "gangsta rap" days.

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@vivify said
I don't care if anyone likes rap or not. That's not the purpose of this post.

My issue is people blaming rap music as responsible for the social issues blacks face rather than systemic racism in the U.S. Not only is this a flawed argument, it's also outdated, since rap music has drastically changed from it's "gangsta rap" days.
Social issues facing blacks are not caused by racism. No man will go and breed 5 woman just because there is racism out there. No woman sleeps with 5 men because there is racism. Nobody drops out of school because of racism. No body joins a gang because of racism. Your arguments appeal only to the foolish.

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Of course but the blanket claim by vivify,that systemic racism is the cause of all the social problems blacks face is nonsense. Blacks here in my country and all over the world have similar social problems of father absence, broken homes, lack of education and training, drugs, gangs, prison.. Its the same story. There is no systemic racism here. So vivify does is clueless to what the problems are, and clueless people should really shut up instead of promoting lies.

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@vivify said
I don't care if anyone likes rap or not. That's not the purpose of this post.

My issue is people blaming rap music as responsible for the social issues blacks face rather than systemic racism in the U.S. Not only is this a flawed argument, it's also outdated, since rap music has drastically changed from it's "gangsta rap" days.
tell me what has the white man done to cause a black to leave fathersless children behind, to steal, to kill each other"?

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@rajk999 said
Social issues facing blacks are not caused by racism. No man will go and breed 5 woman just because there is racism out there. No woman sleeps with 5 men because there is racism. Nobody drops out of school because of racism. No body joins a gang because of racism. Your arguments appeal only to the foolish.
Your arguments are dumb. Promiscuity isn't limited to blacks. See shows like "Jersey Shore", a mega-hit show about white people drinking and sleeping around.

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@rajk999 said
Of course but the blanket claim by vivify,that systemic racism is the cause of all the social problems blacks face i
Never said. anything close to this. I clearly said they are contributing factors, not "all". Nowhere in this thread or any other will have ever indicated racism is solely to blame for any issue.

Societal ills are complex matters with many factors. For blacks, racism is a simply a major one.

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@vivify said
Your arguments are dumb. Promiscuity isn't limited to blacks. See shows like "Jersey Shore", a mega-hit show about white people drinking and sleeping around.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/redneck-rave-descends-into-throat-slashing-impalements-and-mass-arrests/ar-AALkIeO?ocid=msedgntp

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@vivify said
Never said. anything close to this. I clearly said they are contributing factors, not "all". Nowhere in this thread or any other will have ever indicated racism is solely to blame for any issue.

Societal ills are complex matters with many factors. For blacks, racism is a simply a major one.
Lying again.

You said "
Systemic racism is a leading cause to all the problems you just mentioned."

[The problems I mentioned
- broken homes
- fatherless children
- lack of education
- poor parenting
- poverty]


So the point remains. These problems are faced by all blacks in all countries wherever they live, even where there is no systemic racism. What is the cause?

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@rajk999 said
Lying again.

[i]You said "
Systemic racism is a leading cause to all the problems you just mentioned."
Yes. "Leading cause". Not "cause of all". Learn to read.

These problems are faced by all blacks
False.

even where there is no systemic racism

Such as? Let me guess: you're going to name a majority black country, right? And you're also going to pretend European oppression never occurred to influence their current situation, right?

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