Switzerland bans the burqa

@no1marauder said
Are ski masks sales being banned in Switzerland as well?

Ski masks were included in the ban:

https://apnews.com/article/switzerland-burqa-niqab-face-covering-ban-fine-4a4392a28498618ca0c59e290fe10a36

Technically it's a ban on face coverings, not burqa's specifically.

Technically speaking.

@vivify said
You missed my edit. I say they debatably don't hurt anyone, as long as they're not forced to be worn.

Are burqas banned in general public spaces or only specific situations like airport security? If the latter, I'm fine with the ban.

Why airport security? We go through scanners, only when boarding the plane in most airports do you need to show your passport. Interestingly in Egypt bags and passports were checked just to enter the airport.

I don't have any issues with a headscarf if as you say it's the persons choice but a full on burka with only the eyes showing isn't necessary imo. Smacks of repression. Should they be banned though? I don't think so.

@Rajk999 said
Ireland is a notorious supporter of Islamic terrorism and open Jew-haters.

Our biggest enemies are small island nations close to the south American mainland, the new military base in Guam, party funded by the US is coming along nicely in preparations for the invasion.

@vivify said
Ski masks were included in the ban:

https://apnews.com/article/switzerland-burqa-niqab-face-covering-ban-fine-4a4392a28498618ca0c59e290fe10a36

Technically it's a ban on face coverings, not burqa's specifically.

Technically speaking.

Are COVID masks also banned? 🙂

@A-Unique-Nickname said
Our biggest enemies are small island nations close to the south American mainland, the new military base in Guam, party funded by the US is coming along nicely in preparations for the invasion.

Dont know what you referring to, to be honest.

Got a link that I can read?

@vivify said
Ski masks were included in the ban:

https://apnews.com/article/switzerland-burqa-niqab-face-covering-ban-fine-4a4392a28498618ca0c59e290fe10a36

Technically it's a ban on face coverings, not burqa's specifically.

Technically speaking.

I've read several articles concerning the law and it exempts pretty much everything but face coverings worn by a small minority of Muslim women. The supporters of the original referendum made it clear it was directed against this subgroup ostensibly because such coverings somehow inhibit "integration" into society (the security argument is too stupid to be taken seriously).

So it is an out and out discriminatory measure aimed at members of a religious minority.

@vivify said
If they can ban burka's, why not crosses or Yarmulkas?

It's a victory if you hate Islam but a loss for freedom of religion.

Regarding the Swiss being liberal, last year they elected a right-wing government.

I think it’s (stated as being) a security issue.

I’m not convinced on the freedom of religion as the burka isn’t religious of itself, it’s a totem of the blatant oppression of women in Islam.

Yes, hence my asking Moonbus in another thread how he voted, but he politely dodged it.

@divegeester said
I think it’s (stated as being) a security issue.

I’m not convinced on the freedom of religion as the burka isn’t religious of itself, it’s a totem of the blatant oppression of women in Islam.

Yes, hence my asking Moonbus in another thread how he voted, but he politely dodged it.

Terrorists don't hide weapons on their face so the "security" argument is bogus.

Do you feel the same way about habits that nuns in the Catholic Church wear? Would you be OK with the State banning these because they signify the blatant oppression of women in the RCC?

@divegeester said
I think it’s (stated as being) a security issue.

Hard to justify in the US where even, say, carrying a gun, is not viewed as a "security issue." 😆

@Rajk999 said
Dont know what you referring to, to be honest.

Got a link that I can read?

Oh, more will be released in due course, I've already said too much.

@no1marauder said
Terrorists don't hide weapons on their face so the "security" argument is bogus.

Do you feel the same way about habits that nuns in the Catholic Church wear? Would you be OK with the State banning these because they signify the blatant oppression of women in the RCC?

I’d didnt say I thought it was for security, I was just citing the article. I haven’t read around it so I don’t know. However I do think face coverings are a security risk, it’s a big problem here in the UK, not burqas but hoodies and masks etc. We DONT have an issue here with Muslim women, but have a serious one with some Muslim males and it’s getting worse. Here people have to take of crash helmets and any masks when entering shops … not by law though as far as I know.

I also didn’t say I approve of the banning, I don’t. Firstly I don’t think it’s necessary; how many crimes are committed in Switzerland by people dressed in a burqa (rhetorical). And secondly if women want to wear one, let them.

@spruce112358 said
Hard to justify in the US where even, say, carrying a gun, is not viewed as a "security issue." 😆

Ha! Good point.

@spruce112358 said
Are COVID masks also banned? 🙂

They're getting there.

@no1marauder said


So it is an out and out discriminatory measure aimed at members of a religious minority.

Yes it is discriminatory. It is result of the problems caused by Arab immigrants in many parts of the world. If you are blind to that then you need to open your eyes.

@no1marauder said
Terrorists don't hide weapons on their face so the "security" argument is bogus.

Do you feel the same way about habits that nuns in the Catholic Church wear? Would you be OK with the State banning these because they signify the blatant oppression of women in the RCC?

Catholic nuns dont shout "AllahOackbar" and explode in crowded busses, and malls.