Go back
Thank Biden for a Strong Economy

Thank Biden for a Strong Economy

Debates

Suzianne
Misfit Queen

Isle of Misfit Toys

Joined
08 Aug 03
Moves
37388
Clock
316d

@averagejoe1 said
https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/[WORD TOO LONG]

IF he did this, how can he get credit 🤔 for much anything good? So the rich folks get Biden EV help. Ohhhh, Phranny, you libs are real-life cherry pickers. Phranny, why did you leave this out?
Why did you alert her post? Every bit of it is true.

Oh, wait, your Orange Jesus told you to, didn't he?

And you can't refuse him, can you?

Suzianne
Misfit Queen

Isle of Misfit Toys

Joined
08 Aug 03
Moves
37388
Clock
316d

@averagejoe1 said
@AverageJoe1
How about his crime stats, Phranny? Here is a video of an American African carjacking an African American and killing him. You mention nothing about his failure at crime and his dictating. There are many examples of his dictating right out of the gate. (2021)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/here-s-full-list-biden-s-executive-actions-so-far-n ...[text shortened]... al/dc/alberto-vasquez-jr-family-speaks-out-deadly-carjacking/65-a375b404-6558-48e7-8118-145fa27635c4
Do you play this every night before you go to sleep, thanking God you're not black?

Suzianne
Misfit Queen

Isle of Misfit Toys

Joined
08 Aug 03
Moves
37388
Clock
316d

@averagejoe1 said
Well, let's chat. We can begin with this:

Economic systems are structures that dictate how governments and societies create and distribute goods, services, and resources across a country. Two common economic systems are capitalism and socialism. In capitalist societies, the free market (and, therefore, supply and demand) determines production and pricing with no inte ...[text shortened]... this basic principle.

Go for it. Don't be embarrassed to speak from the pedestal of a dependent.
How in the world does a system that ensures that everyone has access to the same resources restrict anyone's liberty? Oh, wait, you mean the wanna-be Overlord class is restricted from restricting everyone else's liberty?

P

Joined
23 Nov 11
Moves
45296
Clock
316d

@jj-adams said
Should we thank Biden for this too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4PbQtMg_2g
If you read the Richardson piece I posted, she writes, "Every time I write about the booming economy, people accurately point out that these numbers don’t necessarily reflect the experiences of everyone. But they have enormous political implications."

vivify
rain

Joined
08 Mar 11
Moves
12456
Clock
316d

@djj said
@vivify
Are these not valid points?

https://fee.org/articles/why-socialism-failed/
Most of those points are debunked nonsense. Keep in mind there's never truly been a socialist nation. Since socialism requires the people as a whole control the means of production, authoritarian nations like Cuba, China or Russia aren't actually socialist.

North Korea's official name is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Despite they're name, North Korea's obviously not "Democratic". Same for authoritarians who call themselves socialist.

There's never been a socialist nation so there's never been example of it failing.

I do agree with the article's point about how capitalism provides incentive for progress. But at the same time capitalism results in exploitation; child labor, sweatshops, monopolies that crush small businesses, etc.

Mott The Hoople

Joined
05 Nov 06
Moves
147484
Clock
316d

@suzianne said
How in the world does a system that ensures that everyone has access to the same resources restrict anyone's liberty? Oh, wait, you mean the wanna-be Overlord class is restricted from restricting everyone else's liberty?
its called the American dream...those that want to improve themselves can...until rthis biden bunch killed it

Wajoma
Die Cheeseburger

Provocation

Joined
01 Sep 04
Moves
78933
Clock
316d
1 edit

@vivify said
But at the same time capitalism results in exploitation; child labor, sweatshops, monopolies that crush small businesses, etc.
The only monopolies possible are the ones ensured by goobermint force.

Employers exploit employees need for income. Employees exploit employers need for labour and knowledge, the arrangement is one of mutual exploitation, and that's a good thing.

The best way to end sweat shops and child labour is the prosperity achieved through free people, free markets and capitalism. You can have all the regulation you like against child labour and sweatshops, but without prosperity they will continue to occur. BTW children should learn the work ethic from an early age anyway.

AverageJoe1
Catch the Train 47!

Lake Como

Joined
27 Jul 10
Moves
54593
Clock
316d

@djj said
@vivify
Are these not valid points?

https://fee.org/articles/why-socialism-failed/
All that being said, I invite anyone, maybe not Suzianne, no offense, to find anything in this link provided above by djj that you take exception to. I cannot imagine that a properly submitted article such as this is fraught with misstatments. Could one of you point one out?
Yes, we all know that there is no 'perfect' economic society, and yeah, we all know there is a bit of socialism in American, given all of the dependents we have,,,,,,and given that 53% of the americans pay ALL of the taxes.
So please speak to the article, any of the points it makes, without sounding like sonhouse or being 5th grade like Suzianne. I would seriously be curious.

AverageJoe1
Catch the Train 47!

Lake Como

Joined
27 Jul 10
Moves
54593
Clock
316d
1 edit

@wajoma said
The only monopolies possible are the ones ensured by goobermint force.

Employers exploit employees need for income. Employees exploit employers need for labour and knowledge, the arrangement is one of mutual exploitation, and that's a good thing.
Liberals see that word 'exploit' and go bonkers. They will not hear what you are saying. If McDonalds hires Joey to work there, he exploits THEM by learning the trade, and they PAY him for it. I love this country.


PS: Can't WAIT for Trump.

Suzianne
Misfit Queen

Isle of Misfit Toys

Joined
08 Aug 03
Moves
37388
Clock
316d
Vote Up
Vote Down

@mott-the-hoople said
its called the American dream...those that want to improve themselves can...until rthis biden bunch killed it
Sure, as long as you were white.

It was a much, MUCH harder road for blacks and Asians. Always has been.

Suzianne
Misfit Queen

Isle of Misfit Toys

Joined
08 Aug 03
Moves
37388
Clock
316d
1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

@wajoma said
The only monopolies possible are the ones ensured by goobermint force.

Employers exploit employees need for income. Employees exploit employers need for labour and knowledge, the arrangement is one of mutual exploitation, and that's a good thing.

The best way to end sweat shops and child labour is the prosperity achieved through free people, free markets and capitalism ...[text shortened]... ity they will continue to occur. BTW children should learn the work ethic from an early age anyway.
So you are saying that mega-corporations police themselves? Yeah, right.

That's like the fox guarding the henhouse.

Employees exploit employers?? Haha, now that is a good one I haven't heard before.

Damn, look at the imagination on you.

Suzianne
Misfit Queen

Isle of Misfit Toys

Joined
08 Aug 03
Moves
37388
Clock
316d
Vote Up
Vote Down

@averagejoe1 said
All that being said, I invite anyone, maybe not Suzianne, no offense, to find anything in this link provided above by djj that you take exception to. I cannot imagine that a properly submitted article such as this is fraught with misstatments. Could one of you point one out?
Yes, we all know that there is no 'perfect' economic society, and yeah, we all know there is ...[text shortened]... kes, without sounding like sonhouse or being 5th grade like Suzianne. I would seriously be curious.
Already debunked.

Suzianne
Misfit Queen

Isle of Misfit Toys

Joined
08 Aug 03
Moves
37388
Clock
316d
Vote Up
Vote Down

AverageJoe1
Catch the Train 47!

Lake Como

Joined
27 Jul 10
Moves
54593
Clock
316d

@suzianne said
So you are saying that mega-corporations police themselves? Yeah, right.

That's like the fox guarding the henhouse.
To police themselves,, which we all do everyday, is to be sure they break no laws, like we make sure not to run a stop sign. So, yeah , "Right", as you say at the end of sentences a lot, ...Right! The corps police themselves. If you have a company, Suzianne, which I am sure you do, your company polices itself, right?
Good gracious alive......

no1marauder
Naturally Right

Somewhere Else

Joined
22 Jun 04
Moves
42677
Clock
316d

@wajoma said
The only monopolies possible are the ones ensured by goobermint force.

Employers exploit employees need for income. Employees exploit employers need for labour and knowledge, the arrangement is one of mutual exploitation, and that's a good thing.

The best way to end sweat shops and child labour is the prosperity achieved through free people, free markets and capitalism ...[text shortened]... ity they will continue to occur. BTW children should learn the work ethic from an early age anyway.
When, oh when, are you going to admit that private property itself is a monopoly only made possible and ensured by "goobermint" force?

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More.