@no1marauder saidSome people are not equal to others. To Marx, and certainly to you, as you just said it, all are equal in his eyes. Down to the last eyelash, and the equal portions of food that he and you will feed the masses.
I've already showed you that immigrants are more likely to hold a full time job than native born citizens.
"Feasible" doesn't mean what you think; it means "possible or practical to do", The level of immigration I outlined is certainly possible and practical; it was done before in the US when the country was far less advanced.
Your bigoted idea that some people aren't equal to others goes against the very founding principles of our nation.
One of my unanswered questions has always been for you to counter my mantra that some people work harder than others, followed by all that that entails. You ignore and do not answer.
And here is classic Marauder, everyone. 'The very founding principles of ou Nation'.......you imply that all people are equal to others, that that is what the fathers said in the Constitution. I got my granny to look that up, it says actually that they 'are CREATED equal', which is not exactly right either, since some are born with no hearing or missing limbs.
You need to go back to linking links!
@no1marauder saidHow can an asylum law be 'unduly' restrictive??? Does Marauder want it to be more lenient? Why? What are he and Biden up to? I can't imagine. His cavalier posts imply that the aliens are no problem, bring them in, as we spend billions and more billions. I truly think Marauder, who dares not listen to conservative news outlets, would be astounded to see the news. He will watch in private as he dreams up his counter arguments, contraryness, whataboutisms, etc. Hey, Clinton and Obama smoked dope too!!!!
Far from "giving away", given the economic benefits of immigration, it would greatly improve the country.
For ignorant and bigoted reasons you seem to want to make our nation poorer than it needs to be.
I took your advice and "looked it up":
"Asylum has been granted in about 40% of the nearly 700,000 asylum cases that have been decided since 2000."
https://ww ...[text shortened]... s%20a%20defense%20against%20deportation.
And that's with our asylum law being unduly restrictive.
If your 8 year old was surrounded in class by little alliens who do not speak english, in a class which is there to prepare your child to move up to the next class by learning what the curriculum is in the present class, would you be cool with that?
Just another question you will not answer. We will certainly stipulate that the teacher will 'dumb down' the class so that the little aliens will not be left behind....teach them english as she goes, slow down as much as necessary. Ouch.
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@averagejoe1 saidA) It doesn't say "All Men are created equal" in the Constitution, but in the nation's founding document the Declaration of Independence;
Some people are not equal to others. To Marx, and certainly to you, as you just said it, all are equal in his eyes. Down to the last eyelash, and the equal portions of food that he and you will feed the masses.
One of my unanswered questions has always been for you to counter my mantra that some people work harder than others, followed by all that that entails. Yo ...[text shortened]... er, since some are born with no hearing or missing limbs.
You need to go back to linking links!
B) Not being idiots like yourself they didn't mean to say everyone was the same (as you seem to interpret their words) but that everyone was equal in their entitlement to the Natural Rights their Creator gave them.
Your moronic idea that the differences in the capitalist economic system are mainly determined by who "works harder" have been dealt with and sufficiently ridiculed many times on this Forum by myself and other posters. Your usual strategy of pretending such clownish ideas haven't been thoroughly debunked is comical by now.
@no1marauder saidI erred and referred to Constitution instead of Declaration.
A) It doesn't say "All Men are created equal" in the Constitution, but in the nation's founding document the Declaration of Independence;
B) Not being idiots like yourself they didn't mean to say everyone was the same (as you seem to interpret their words) but that everyone was equal in their entitlement to the Natural Rights their Creator gave them.
Your moronic id ...[text shortened]... usual strategy of pretending such clownish ideas haven't been thoroughly debunked is comical by now.
We all know what they were saying, Marauder, it is your comments that we do not understand. Word salad, it's called.
You still dance around my 'Some people work harder than others'. I have said that often when you speak of socialist ideas, as Obama has in mind. Spread the wealth, such as that? Or Kamala, 'At the end of the day we should all end up in the same place.' Marauder, if she gets her way, I would be in the same line with a guy who did not work as hard as I did that day, but gets the same bowl of soup that I do.
You simply have no answer to this point that I make. If you agreed publicly with me, it would deflate and negate all of your plans for America!!!
I killed you on that point, but you play the Suzianne Gambit and open a post with my misstating the Constitution. Geez o petey.
@AverageJoe1
" I would be in the same line with a guy who did not work as hard as me, but gets the same bowl of soup that I do".
Ayn Rand and I have a real problem with that, yet you would consider it nirvanna.
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@averagejoe1 saidI would estimate that there have been at least 100 posts on this Forum explaining to you the difference between supporting equal opportunity (which most progressives do) and insisting on equal outcomes (which hardly anyone does). That you can't wrap your head around this is not the fault of others, but of your brainwashed stupidity.
I erred and referred to Constitution instead of Declaration.
We all know what they were saying, Marauder, it is your comments that we do not understand. Word salad, it's called.
You still dance around my 'Some people work harder than others'. I have said that often when you speak of socialist ideas, as Obama has in mind. Spread the wealth, such as that? Or Kamala, ...[text shortened]... ut you play the Suzianne Gambit and open a post with my misstating the Constitution. Geez o petey.
@no1marauder saidSupporting equal opportunity. Yeah, we all think that. Whew.
I would estimate that there have been at least 100 posts on this Forum explaining to you the difference between supporting equal opportunity (which most progressives do) and insisting on equal outcomes (which hardly anyone does). That you can't wrap your head around this is not the fault of others, but of your brainwashed stupidity.
But you wrote this a few pages back, all I did was say that you are totally incorrect, we are not all equal. In this post, you write about 'equal opportunituy', which is not what you wrote before. If it makes me dizzy, imagine what it does to Kev, et al
You wrote..."Your bigoted idea that some people aren't equal to others goes against the very founding principles of our nation".
Please don't re-set your comments, time to move along. Did you tell us what you would do if your 8th grader is surrounded by non-english speaking children while trying to learn???? Here it is again, so what would you do?
If your 8 year old was surrounded in class by little alliens who do not speak english, in a class which is there to prepare your child to move up to the next class by learning what the curriculum is in the present class, would you be cool with that?
Just another question you will not answer. We will certainly stipulate that the teacher will 'dumb down' the class so that the little aliens will not be left behind....teach them english as she goes, slow down as much as necessary. Ouch.
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@averagejoe1 saidSeriously, WTF are you talking about?
Supporting equal opportunity. Yeah, we all think that. Whew.
But you wrote this a few pages back, all I did was say that you are totally incorrect, we are not all equal. In this post, you write about 'equal opportunituy', which is not what you wrote before. If it makes me dizzy, imagine what it does to Kev, et al
You wrote..."Your bigoted idea that some people ...[text shortened]... ens will not be left behind....teach them english as she goes, slow down as much as necessary. Ouch.
No, I don't "stipulate" any such thing. There are classes for non-English speakers you know.
And the fact that a child or an immigrant can't speak English doesn't make them "not equal" in the sense the Framers used which was, as I already told you:
B) Not being idiots like yourself they didn't mean to say everyone was the same (as you seem to interpret their words) but that everyone was equal in their entitlement to the Natural Rights their Creator gave them.
Many, many immigrants when they came to the United States couldn't speak English. Are you seriously asserting that others were superior to them for such a dumb reason?
@no1marauder saidSo, you are going to explain, but it is what it is. I guess I get tired of you and Kamala throwing all this stuff around about equality. She spoke Marixism , "we should all be the same at the end of the day". You never took excpetion to that absolutely horrible premise, but then, you wouldn't. And you only further equal/equality stuff to the confusion of the thread. Why dont you just say every one go to work and become independent.? Have you ever said that word?
Seriously, WTF are you talking about?
No, I don't "stipulate" any such thing. There are classes for non-English speakers you know.
And the fact that a child or an immigrant can't speak English doesn't make them "not equal" in the sense the Framers used which was, as I already told you:
B) Not being idiots like yourself they didn't mean to say everyone was the sa ...[text shortened]... speak English. Are you seriously asserting that others were superior to them for such a dumb reason?
Then you compare the steady established practice of organized immigrant acceptance, english speaking courses, the works, that has gone on for over 100 years, to the absolute chaos crime and fentanyl at our border . Personally, I think immigration is not the word. And it IS an invasion. given that the cartels (fit the definition) are crossing with them.
Marauder, Ellis is not our world today. You are disingenuous, you could not be more disingenuous. You will not dare compare the border to Ellis Island. Why, I dont' think one alien got upset when their chicken pox caused them to have to get back on the boat. Did they have posters for alien street marchers in those days.
I cannot IMAGINE being a liberal, giving our country away, bowing to Biden,.....have you pulled up the video on his trying to talk like a human about beer yesterday. Jesus. If Xi saw it, he may go ahead and pull he trigger.
I cannot WAIT until Trump, I hope it is not too late.
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@athousandyoung saidCongress is historically dysfunctional due to fanatic Republicans
Tell you what. You get the Republicans in Congress to provide the funding and I’ll make sure Biden does what he needs to do to block the border.
@athousandyoung saidSince you do not know what you are talking about, you silly fella, I think I will pass on this particular click.
Congress is historically dysfunctional due to fanatic Republicans
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@athousandyoung saidSoon as I saw he had a man-bun I lost interest in anything he had to say.
Congress is historically dysfunctional due to fanatic Republicans
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@jj-adams saidYou looked at a link provided by Thousand? And if the man was sporting (showing his) a hair bun, it is a girl bun as far as AvJoe is concerned. It is a considered decision to grow out a bun, very strange to ole AvJoe. I would just be myself, I would not add something to that self. I’d rather be regarded for who I am. . What if Mott asked me to advise his child in some serious matter, and I show up with a hair bun?
Soon as I saw he had a man-bun I lost interest in anything he had to say.
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@averagejoe1 saidAnd you are lying.
@AverageJoe1
" I would be in the same line with a guy who did not work as hard as me, but gets the same bowl of soup that I do".
Ayn Rand and I have a real problem with that, yet you would consider it nirvanna.
I submit that nearly everyone who makes less than you works harder than you. Have you ever picked up a shovel in your life? Have you driven a big rig across America? Have you ever laid a ceramic tile garage floor? These are the people who work hard. What do you do for a living? Push around paper all day? I daresay you do NOT work harder than these other people. So, according to you, it is YOU who benefits off the sweat of others who work harder than you.
Does that make you the parasite? Yes, yes it does. So get the F off your high horse.
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Why don't you actually look up what is going on? Trump told Johnson to kill it so being a nice pet sycophant, he is killing it.
But OF COURSE Trump could NEVER be at fault for anything can it? Johnson admitted that bit on TV but of course you won't find that on OAN or Newsmax.
You are being deliberately obtuse.
Your hatred shines through.
When the Senate approves a bill and the House doesn't, that is BIDEN'S fault?
What fukking planet do you come from anyway? It sure as HELL isn't Earth.