Conservatives love to dwell on welfare and food stamps. They use terms like "paying people not to work" and "welfare queens" but what about the other side of welfare? Below are welfare topics conservatives never want to discuss:
Paying farmers not to grow crops: A substitute for agricultural price support programs designed to ensure that farmers could always sell their crops for enough to support themselves. This big government, socialist program has been supported by Conservative farmers for decades.
Corporate Welfare - Nike 2.3 billion, Chrysler 2.02 billion, General Motors 3.05 billion, Intel 3.87 billion, Alcoa 5.64 billion, Boeing 13.18 billion - Just a small sample of profitable companies who don't need the extra money, but happily tap the taxpayers for that extra cash every year.
Red States have more welfare recipients - The states with the most per capita recipients are 80% red. They are: New Mexico, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Alabama.
Red States receive substantially more federal aid than Blue States: Despite all the Republican sniveling about welfare sucking liberals the highest federal aid recipients are: Mississippi (45.3% of the state’s general fund budget), Louisiana (44😵, Tennessee (41😵 Michigan is in the middle of the pack, ranking No. 23.
Many welfare recipients work: Over 45% of welfare recipients work at jobs, but are also eligible for welfare payments because wages for the working poor have not kept up with the cost of living.
So - The next time you hear a conservative waxing lyrical about those "welfare sucking liberals" you might enlighten them regarding the other side of welfare.
https://www.wallstwatchdog.com/money-career/high-on-the-hog-the-top-8-corporate-welfare-recipients/
https://www.politicscentral.org/red-states-receive-substantially-more-federal-aid-than-blue-states/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/why-does-the-govt-pay-farmers
@mchill saidGood post. Excluding Social Security and Medicare, the taxpayer burden for corporate welfare exceeds personal welfare. All of those direct payments to corporations to secure votes and keep the markets stable. The markets always go up and the rich always get richer.
Conservatives love to dwell on welfare and food stamps. They use terms like "paying people not to work" and "welfare queens" but what about the other side of welfare? Below are welfare topics conservatives never want to discuss:
Paying farmers not to grow crops: A substitute for agricultural price support programs designed to ensure that farmers could always sell their ...[text shortened]... -federal-aid-than-blue-states/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/why-does-the-govt-pay-farmers
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@mchill saidGREAT POST !!!
Conservatives love to dwell on welfare and food stamps. They use terms like "paying people not to work" and "welfare queens" but what about the other side of welfare? Below are welfare topics conservatives never want to discuss:
Paying farmers not to grow crops: A substitute for agricultural price support programs designed to ensure that farmers could always sell their ...[text shortened]... -federal-aid-than-blue-states/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/why-does-the-govt-pay-farmers
What say; Metal Blame? LessThanAverage?
DOO, Do you want weigh in on this?
@jimm619 saidI'll save them all some time:
GREAT POST !!!
What say; Metal Blame? LessThanAverage?
DOO, Do you want weigh in on this?
AverageJoe - Corporate welfare is the good kind because it helps rich people.
MetalBrain - Liar. what is you source of information?
Dood - Yeah but Joe Biden's son did something bad and the media is evil.
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@wildgrass saidHa, ha, ha...You're perceptive
I'll save them all some time:
AverageJoe - Corporate welfare is the good kind because it helps rich people.
MetalBrain - Liar. what is you source of information?
Dood - Yeah but Joe Biden's son did something bad and the media is evil.
maybe you can tell me;
why are these people so narrow minded?
Is it media influence? Changing demographics?
It didn't used to be this way....Hell, Richard Nixon
would be deemed too 'liberal' for today's GOP.
Welfare is needed because of too many unskilled workers without jobs.
Technology and automation is only going to increase that number of unskilled workers.
Removing welfare would only cause millions of people to resort to crime to survive and that leads to prison.
Prison costs 3 times as much per person than just giving them a welfare check.
Average welfare per person is roughly 8000 a year and the cost to house somebody in prison is roughly 24,000 per year...and more if they have medical problems.
Welfare has to exist and it will eventually be called Universal Basic Income.
@Contenchess
But the untrainable may be at retirement age and so the new jobs requiring some special training will be done by those young folks who lost previous jobs to automation or some such.
Right now the unemployment rate in the US is lower than in the past fifty years.
@sonhouse
My post was directed at the anti-welfare people.
Now as far as the young being trained...I guess it is happening but as we progress with technology and automation we eliminate jobs to increase profits. Or jobs are eliminated because a better system was created.
That and the population always increasing will leave more and more people without work.
I can't think of one example where a company is increasing the work force. All of them try to reduce the work force while increasing production.
So welfare is needed.
@contenchess saidI almost like you now. 😏
@sonhouse
My post was directed at the anti-welfare people.
Now as far as the young being trained...I guess it is happening but as we progress with technology and automation we eliminate jobs to increase profits. Or jobs are eliminated because a better system was created.
That and the population always increasing will leave more and more people without work.
I ...[text shortened]... rce. All of them try to reduce the work force while increasing production.
So welfare is needed.
@mchill saidThere is a plethora of sites explaining subsidies, govt assistance, what have you, which are programs that work. Cash is given to the subject entity, it leads to lower prices for ALL Americans. Wages and social strata are another issue. Yes it has socialist trappings, as many agency programs. We have always agreed that there is socialism in several areas. It bolsters the welfare of ALL of society. And the use of the word welfare, as is the use of it in the constitution, is not the same 'welfare' that we conservatives harp about all the time.
Conservatives love to dwell on welfare and food stamps. They use terms like "paying people not to work" and "welfare queens" but what about the other side of welfare? Below are welfare topics conservatives never want to discuss:
Paying farmers not to grow crops: A substitute for agricultural price support programs designed to ensure that farmers could always sell their ...[text shortened]... -federal-aid-than-blue-states/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/why-does-the-govt-pay-farmers
No sense rapping about Subsidies, which thousands of good smart men have devised over a hundred years. It works. It is incorrect to say the corps take the money but don't need it. Those thousand men seem to think it is part of the big picture.
As to the people of the southern states getting the major portion of the welfare, it should be obvious as to how that is. And, it shows that welfare is thus properly proportioned, so , again, no discussion needed.
@contenchess saidWait, me too!!! Welfare is needed. But, I think I differ with y'all about who gets it.
@sonhouse
My post was directed at the anti-welfare people.
Now as far as the young being trained...I guess it is happening but as we progress with technology and automation we eliminate jobs to increase profits. Or jobs are eliminated because a better system was created.
That and the population always increasing will leave more and more people without work.
I ...[text shortened]... rce. All of them try to reduce the work force while increasing production.
So welfare is needed.
@wildgrass saidI feel I must weigh in on the rich get richer.
Good post. Excluding Social Security and Medicare, the taxpayer burden for corporate welfare exceeds personal welfare. All of those direct payments to corporations to secure votes and keep the markets stable. The markets always go up and the rich always get richer.
Wildgrass, clearly the rich get rich doing what they do.....the poor get (stay) poor doing what they do. My comments appear unfeeling and abrasive,, I know, but there ain't but one way to say it.
I know two men, brothers, grew up together, same everything, one is quite successful,... the other, is not.
If libs look at that scenario on a national scale, they seem to think there is something wrong with it, and it should be changed or modified or fixed or corrected or made-fair......they think, that there is something wrong here.
What, pray tell, is wrong?
