28 Jan 06
Originally posted by PeachyIf you're happy then I'm happy, sunshine.
Oh my oh my.. You have a fantastic debating attitude, I must say..
Two things in reply to your miserable post;
1, Don't label us as anti-semite. Got nothing against the Jews, in fact two of
my mates are. We have an issue with the Zionists, do you get it Zionist?
2, Yes, I am damn happy, not only as Hamas won. Also because I
unintentionally managed to piss you off.
I hope you're relatives are happy as well. I'm sure they threw a big celebration when Hamas won. Even bought little Mustafa a new rock? Did little Muhamad get a new pencil for the celebration? Hey, maybe they even bought Pillows, so that they won't need to sleep on sand every night eh?
As long as you're happy, all is well.
But you sohuldn't be too happy, because believe me The zionists are going nowhere.
And im not here to have debate with you. You are not even worthy of the 10 minutes it took me to write this post.
28 Jan 06
Originally posted by Faith No MoreSpoken like a true Zionist..
If you're happy then I'm happy, sunshine.
I hope you're relatives are happy as well. I'm sure they threw a big celebration when Hamas won. Even bought little Mustafa a new rock? Did little Muhamad get a new pencil for the celebration? Hey, maybe they even bought Pillows, so that they won't need to sleep on sand every night eh?
As long as you're hap ...[text shortened]... debate with you. You are not even worthy of the 10 minutes it took me to write this post.
28 Jan 06
May I participate in this discussion,
I am from Palestine, I didn't vote for Hamas, because I'm not religious & because I don't agree with them, I also didn't vote for Fatah because they are corrupt,
I think Hamas win is good and bad at the same time, good because they will fight corruption, bad because we will have problems with the international community, also I don't think this will make any difference regarding the peace process, because palestinians are waiting for the peace process since 1993, and they lost hope in any advances in it.
I don't think the conflict will be solved by violance, nor will it be solved if Hamas got quite and tried peaceful methods, we need some hundreds of years to understand that we have to live together in peace
ivanhoe: I can understand why you hate Hamas, maybe you have right in this, but the QUESTION is: do you consider the Israeli occupation, settelments, killings, destruction, as bad as Hamas?
29 Jan 06
Originally posted by aspviper666Yep .. paliwali, you need a sense of humour on this forum.
I was joking dude.
I believe in freedom of speach,no matter how extreme your Islamic
baby killing view is.
You seem to a bit more moderate than Peachy (who does not mind if Israel is wiped out), but you say peaceful methods wont solve anything neither will violence. What then do you see as the way forward ?
29 Jan 06
Originally posted by aspviper666who told you I have "Islamic baby killing view"!! Who told you I am a Muslim!
I was joking dude.
I believe in freedom of speach,no matter how extreme your Islamic
baby killing view is.
and if we will talk about killing then I ask you who killed/is killing more people in this world!
29 Jan 06
Originally posted by Rajk999I think there is no way forward at the moment, because both sides have red lines that cross each other
Yep .. paliwali, you need a sense of humour on this forum.
You seem to a bit more moderate than Peachy (who does not mind if Israel is wiped out), but you say peaceful methods wont solve anything neither will violence. What then do you see as the way forward ?
29 Jan 06
Originally posted by paliwaliDont get your panties in a bunch Shiela.I was joking.And for sure the USA is a killing machine just as Al Queda and the Islamic militant front.
who told you I have "Islamic baby killing view"!! Who told you I am a Muslim!
and if we will talk about killing then I ask you who killed/is killing more people in this world!
There is a big difference here .The USA declares war and fights it within the parameters of the Geneva Convention.Were the Palistinian attacks on Jewish citizens part of a military operation??No, it was outright terrorism.
So be proud of whatever flag you have ,as with all countries, including the USA,it came from a bloody birth.
29 Jan 06
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Originally posted by paliwaliAm glad you did paliwali. Great having you on this site.
May I participate in this discussion,
I am from Palestine, I didn't vote for Hamas, because I'm not religious & because I don't agree with them, I also didn't vote for Fatah because they are corrupt,
I think Hamas win is good and bad at the same time, good because they will fight corruption, bad because we will have problems with the international com you consider the Israeli occupation, settelments, killings, destruction, as bad as Hamas?
I appreciate what you are saying, but Hamas, as am sure you know, cares
a hell of a lot for the community around them. If I was in Palestine, I would
have voted for Hamas.
I think they will make a big difference in both, national and
international communities. In fact, judging from what I know about
them, they will do a hell of a good to the future of Palestine.
Or what are your thoughts on it?
29 Jan 06
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Originally posted by Rajk999Are ya sayin am an "Extremist"?
Yep .. paliwali, you need a sense of humour on this forum.
You seem to a bit more moderate than Peachy (who does not mind if Israel is wiped out), but you say peaceful methods wont solve anything neither will violence. What then do you see as the way forward ?
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aspviper666, "Geneva Convention" my ass, what about the prisoners in
Guantanamo Bay?
"Palestinian attacks on Jewish citizens"... excuse me? There is no law in
Palestine.. These people are in War. The Palestinians are retaliating
against the occupation... They are trying to liberate their lands.
Freedom Fighters.
29 Jan 06
Originally posted by PeachyThe prisoners are in an internal prison and are being held as spys basically under the old laws .As such they are not covered and I would bet 90%of them are terroists who deserve only a quick death and then go to Allah.
Are ya sayin am an "Extremist"?
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aspviper666, "Geneva Convention" my ass, what about the prisoners in
Guantanamo Bay?
"Palestinian attacks on Jewish citizens"... excuse me? There is no law in
Palestine.. These people are in War. The Palestinians are retaliating
against the occupation... They are trying to liberate their lands.
Freedom Fighters.
And tthe so called attacks in the so called war are simply put a cheap terror tctic and not true warfare.
Seems to me thats how the Islamic extremists fight.
Use a human suicide bomb to kill civilians??
I don't recall Israel or the USA doing that.
29 Jan 06
Originally posted by aspviper666Oh dear.
The USA declares war and fights it within the parameters of the Geneva Convention.
This is so full of bull, I think you're going to drown in it.
Guatanamo bay...
Torture
Mass murder of civilians (Hiroshima, My Lai, Baghdad)
Covert operations in South America
Training of terrorists in SOA (WHISC)
Coining the phrase: "Illegal combatants" to deliberately side-step the Genevia Convention...
Dude....wake up and smell the napalm.
29 Jan 06
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Originally posted by paliwaliPaliwali: "I can understand why you hate Hamas, maybe you have right in this, but the QUESTION is: do you consider the Israeli occupation, settelments, killings, destruction, as bad as Hamas?
May I participate in this discussion,
I am from Palestine, I didn't vote for Hamas, because I'm not religious & because I don't agree with them, I also didn't vote for Fatah because they are corrupt,
I think Hamas win is good and bad at the same time, good because they will fight corruption, bad because we will have problems with the international com you consider the Israeli occupation, settelments, killings, destruction, as bad as Hamas?
First of all I do not hate Hamas. I consider it to be a very dangerous terrorist organisation, that should be looked upon with caution. That is a different attitude.
Paliwali: " ... but the QUESTION is: do you consider the Israeli occupation, settelments, killings, destruction, as bad as Hamas?"
I consider the violence on both sides to be extreme and unwanted. If we want peace we have to reject the violence from both sides. The most important fact in my view is that the violence from both sides has to stop in order to make peace negotiations possible. I'm sure the Palestinian Hamas voters didn't vote for continuation of the violence or in favour of the destruction of the state of Israel as mentioned in the Hamas Charter. They voted for medical aid, hospitals, schools, and an end to corruption. I strongly doubt they voted for continuation of the violence and the Jihad.
Therefore I do have hope that in case Hamas forms a government they will have to act in such a way that they will keep the support of the majority of the population. It could be a beginning of changing the Hamas leadership into the direction of acknowledging the State of Israel, and accepting the two state solution.
However, these are expectations based on a positive and optimistic attitude on my part. We'll have to see how things will develop. In any case the EU foreign policy should be aimed at stimulating and achieving the above developments and aims.