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Originally posted by Wajoma
The flaw in your analogy is that it is for you yourself to decide which specialists to trust and then act on that information, if you then choose to jump around here and there after that so be it, that's on your head, heh heh.

In the other example you've got one group trying to dictate to another group.
But even though that group may not be elected they do not operate in a vacuum. They will be informed by expert opinion and at least would by following a definite course of action they will at least affect definite change. Now in the case of the surgery, the surgery could be a success and the patient could die, or at least by following a course of action consistently through to its logical conclusion at least the patient has some measure of probability of reaching a positive outcome.

The flip floppers however may as well toss a coin.

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Originally posted by kmax87

The flip floppers however may as well toss a coin.
The point is my dear waj, that in either surgery scenario the choice that you the patient has, is limited by the professionals available and the extent to which you could make an informed choice is rather limited. The point I am trying to make is that if either expert is competent, independently they probably would have roughly equal probabilities of success if allowed to promote their treatment from go to whoa.

The problem is that if for any reason the schedule is tampered with by someone not able to allow their ego to accept that the other professionals model is equally as effective and instead of letting it run its course tries to turn the treatment so that they can walk away with kudos for having solved the problem, thus ensuring their future election.

Its an added dynamic you would wish to avoid when the expertise asked for is critical and time sensitive and largely dependent on a series of cumulative steps taken in a particular order depending on the location of the first incision.

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Right, right, I'm onto it,

The tumor actually consists of control freaks, busybodies, bureauRats and pollies. The more time the tumor spends squabbling amongst itself acheiving nothing, the better off the patient is i.e. everyone that isn't a control freak, busybody, bureauRat or pollie

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Originally posted by Amaurote
Hmmm...I know some Americans have a strange detestation of the words "working class", but somehow I've never thought of the average pitworker as middle class.
Only rich liberal Americans detest "work" and look down on those who provide it.

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
So, what you are saying is that companies have the [b]right to pollute the environment that I have to live in, and are accountable to no-one?[/b]
Corporations are accountable to their shareholders as well as the demands of the market. Now in the socialist paradise you reside in, no, there is no accountability except to the party line.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Only rich liberal Americans detest "work" and look down on those who provide it.
Killing off your mother. MMMM..... nothing like the oedipal condemnation of an insider, hey my black mister knight?

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Originally posted by Wajoma
Right, right, I'm onto it,

The tumor actually consists of control freaks, busybodies, bureauRats and pollies. The more time the tumor spends squabbling amongst itself acheiving nothing, the better off the patient is i.e. everyone that isn't a control freak, busybody, bureauRat or pollie
Ah yes nothing like the peace of the ignorant in permanent denial. Its like that dirty pogrom when they said that tobacco would give you cancer. Whatever would good multinationals want do do with poisoning their customer base? Doesn't make sense.

Nah those regulators can go and get bent with their paranoid delusions and leave the corporations to do the right thing by their clients. Hey if they are selling dud products the consumer is smart enough to choose something else. Right!?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Only rich liberal Americans detest "work" and look down on those who provide it.
Not true, I'm not American...

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Prove it for yourself. Go on the internet to . For a broader perspective go to . It's important that people know what is being done to us. Good luck. Rod

WTF --- I posted two websites and they did not appear in my post - is this one of those lame censorship websites - bloody hell - the websites I offered to prove my assertions are as follows - you'll have to figure out how to navigate to them....

the one which tells about the Security and Prosperity Partnership is called spp[DOT]gov - its a GOVERNMENT WEBSITE for pete's sake

the other one is the website of a patriot group and it has some excellent information - you might want to listen to the audio streams too - dynamite - navigate to... infowars[DOT]com

It's amazing the crap one must wade through to make a simple post. RP

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Originally posted by RodneyPorter
. It's important that people know what is being done to us. Good luck. Rod
Sounds like someone with maybe just the slightest bit of skepticism towards the notion that the Federal Reserve works in the best interest of providing America a sound financial foundation?

Edit: Wait till they biometrically ID you and link in your carbon footprint and then they will be at the threshold of taxing you directly on the air you breathe.

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Originally posted by Bad wolf
Not true, I'm not American...
Oh yeah, Europeans, union members, actors, trial lawyers and college students also detest work.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Oh yeah, Europeans, union members, actors, trial lawyers and college students also detest work.
For a start college work is very difficult, let's say that you need to maintain a part time job in the rest of your time to support your family, how could someone not hate this?
How could you concentrate the same amount of effort on your studies, when you are always exhausted from working?

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Originally posted by Bad wolf
For a start college work is very difficult, let's say that you need to maintain a part time job in the rest of your time to support your family, how could someone not hate this?
How could you concentrate the same amount of effort on your studies, when you are always exhausted from working?
You've got it tough all right...not. When I was going to college, I had three part-time jobs. During the week I worked at UPS scrubbing tires on the trucks, and on weekends I worked at the video arcade and the movie theater. Somehow I survived...and graduated with no debt. I think college is overrated though, especially now, since it makes you a moron.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
You've got it tough all right...not. When I was going to college, I had three part-time jobs. During the week I worked at UPS scrubbing tires on the trucks, and on weekends I worked at the video arcade and the movie theater. Somehow I survived...and graduated with no debt. I think college is overrated though, especially now, since it makes you a moron.
Your system is different from mine, college here is basically school from 16 to 18 y.o. for you, it is optional here, for the moment.

Tell me dsR, did you enjoy all of that work at the time?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
especially now, since it makes you a moron.
How come every generation thinks they invented sex and on the flip side that educational standards are slipping when compared to when they went through, yet knowledge, technology and inventiveness are only ever on the increase?

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