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AverageJoe1
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Harris wants to forgive medical debt

I don’t have any medical debt. Not fair…………………………………….Right!!!?!?!?!

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@AverageJoe1
I agree with medical debt forgiveness. You should not fault people for having poor health unless you know for a fact they are to blame for it.

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@Metal-Brain said
@AverageJoe1
I agree with medical debt forgiveness. You should not fault people for having poor health unless you know for a fact they are to blame for it.
What you gonna have government (330M fellow citizens) pay for after that? I would think food would be high on list of necessities.
So what do you think would be next? I would say food. It would amount to nationalizing grocery stores. Yeah, that would happen. I would miss food creativity.

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@AverageJoe1 said
What you gonna have government (330M fellow citizens) pay for after that? I would think food would be high on list of necessities.
So what do you think would be next? I would say food. It would amount to nationalizing grocery stores. Yeah, that would happen. I would miss food creativity.
We already have welfare for the poor. Do you have a problem with that too?
Why can't we have universal healthcare when Israel does? Isn't our country the wealthiest country in the world?

Why do we give welfare to Israel? Don't you have a problem with that?

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@Metal-Brain said
We already have welfare for the poor. Do you have a problem with that too?
Why can't we have universal healthcare when Israel does? Isn't our country the wealthiest country in the world?

Why do we give welfare to Israel? Don't you have a problem with that?
I believe in welfare for the poor. example, I have said 50 times that we need to totally cover the 50M destitute. Give it a rest, you gonna join up with the hyenas?

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@Metal-Brain said
We already have welfare for the poor. Do you have a problem with that too?
Why can't we have universal healthcare when Israel does? Isn't our country the wealthiest country in the world?

Why do we give welfare to Israel? Don't you have a problem with that?
Oh, you didn't answer what the government will pay for next. You don't think it would stop with medical care, do you. Hey, did you see where Michele Obama said yesterday that after you have enough for yourself that you need to share what is left over? She has 3 mansions. 'nuff said.

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@AverageJoe1 said
I believe in welfare for the poor. example, I have said 50 times that we need to totally cover the 50M destitute. Give it a rest, you gonna join up with the hyenas?
What do you have against universal healthcare?
People who get cancer should die broke and in debt?
At least show you have some empathy for the terminally ill. You might be one some day.

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@Metal-Brain said
What do you have against universal healthcare?
People who get cancer should die broke and in debt?
At least show you have some empathy for the terminally ill. You might be one some day.
What I have against it is that we cannot afford it. I say again, you people act like something new has popped up in the last 3 years that has to be dealt with. People have had the same medical issues and problems and solutions and deaths and bad decisions and cancer and customary diseases etc to deal with for as long as our country has been here. We have dealt with it, we will continue to in the same way of life. Emergency medicine has always been available. You want to swamp hospitals with people, and totally dumb down health care. The immigrants alone will have a field day, camped out there. Sorry, man, hospitals as we know them will cease to exist. But, that is what you libs want, I just do not get it. Just all of a sudden, this woman is promising the world (she will never deliver). Gosh, things were fine till people like you and Kamala say we need a change that has been due for 250 years!!!?!?

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@AverageJoe1
We can't afford it. Why do other countries with one tenth of our GNP have it then?
Funny how those countries have this value called empathy which you repubs wiped out of the dictionary when Trump came into power.

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
We can't afford it. Why do other countries with one tenth of our GNP have it then?
Funny how those countries have this value called empathy which you repubs wiped out of the dictionary when Trump came into power.
I heard about a group on tic-toc or what ever they call it that the kids are all on and the 18 year old's that are voting for the first time appears they will mainly be voting for Harris in their first election. Not sure how many are in the group. I don't even know if it will be enough to make a difference, as the Dems are going to need every vote they can get, from the way things sound at the DNC in Chicago.

-VR

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@AverageJoe1
I do not say this often, but sonhouse is right.
We spend too much on our military might. Reduce that spending and you can afford it. We also have the world reserve currency, the US dollar. Given that fact, nobody can afford it more than we can.

And sonhouse knows how much CO2 the US military is putting into the atmosphere and he fears that will cause global warming to accelerate.

And I thought you called yourself a conservative. Why do conservatives condone liberal spending on the military? What are you all trying to conserve? Peace?

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@Metal-Brain
This is a bit of a shocker:

https://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0053_defense-comparison

As much as ten other big countries combined.
Then the question is, with China spending whatever it is, 1/4th or ours and is coming up with really deadly new weapons, what are we doing to match that kind of innovation.
Just on the military front alone.
China is not a real communist country like it used to be so it is not the government system doing that.

It think medical allocations can be increased because for one thing, Medicare was OWNED by big Pharm, who pumped in a quarter BILLION in lobbying to KEEP their insane prices insane but Biden is working on that, getting the price of insulin down to 35 bucks where it used to be 400 bucks when in fact it costs 10 bucks to make. Now the ability for Medicare to negotiate prices which it didn't have before, now meds can come down across the board and big pharm will have to be content with a mere 100% profit vs the 4000% profit as before.

But on the defense side, here is a list of country defense spending as percentage of GDP, and the US is not very high % wise

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures

US, at 3.4% of GDP so there is a LOT of other spending that could be cut say one percent and have that money pumped into medicare and such.

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
We can't afford it. Why do other countries with one tenth of our GNP have it then?
Funny how those countries have this value called empathy which you repubs wiped out of the dictionary when Trump came into power.
Prob a long answer on 'other countries' who don't hold a candle to our might, no military to pay for, and no illegals flooding their systems. Long answer, dont have the time. You might ask why we dont make our country like Netherlands 😆 , I am sure there is an answer. Why don't politicians like Kamala or Eisenhower suggest that we be like 'other countries'? Jeeez. I don't have a thing in my house from Netherelands, but I will guarantee neterhlands has plenty of our stuff in theirs.

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@Very-Rusty said
I heard about a group on tic-toc or what ever they call it that the kids are all on and the 18 year old's that are voting for the first time appears they will mainly be voting for Harris in their first election. Not sure how many are in the group. I don't even know if it will be enough to make a difference, as the Dems are going to need every vote they can get, from the way things sound at the DNC in Chicago.

-VR
Dems are preaching, for 4 days, Personalities over Policies.
Repubs convention, they preached Policies over Personalities.
Y'all would have drug Jimmy Carter from his sick bed in Georgia if the doctors would have allowed it. What is so big about personalities and celebrities with you people? George Clooney?

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@AverageJoe1 said
Dems are preaching, for 4 days, Personalities over Policies.
Repubs convention, they preached Policies over Personalities.
Y'all would have drug Jimmy Carter from his sick bed in Georgia if the doctors would have allowed it. What is so big about personalities and celebrities with you people? George Clooney?
Once again my short memory friend, I am Canadian.

I just know that TRUMP getting in will not be a good thing for Americans, or Canadian, or the rest of the world for that matter. Hell he didn't even want to give up power. Do you know how many died protecting the Capital during the Jan6 2021 insurrection he caused? I hope they get to that part tonight. America, Canada, and World will be much better off under a Harris Administration.

-VR

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