07 Jun 04
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Originally posted by Sangeeta
1. There is alot of food that is tasty- if you expanded your food choices beyond that of rotting carcasses, ...
Doctors are actively recommending this as the diet for the new millenia!
1. There is alot of food that is tasty- if you expanded your food choices beyond that of rotting carcasses, you may find that most of the world population eats vegetarian food (as it is the most economic) and such ethnic foods are delicous!See, that's your problem. You shouldn't wait until the carcass is rotting, just let it age a little. However, if your carcass get's a bit smelly, you can add some spicy barbecue sauce or make it into a chili con carne.
2. I bet you couldn't run down a cow, jump on his back and tear his flesh...so much for your carnivorous teeth! We need *tools* to kill animals and tear them apart- nor can our teeth and hands slaughter an animal as we don't have teeth sharp enough and the claws required to kill.Really depends on how hungry I am. I bet I could take down a moderate sized heifer if all I had to eat in my pantry was a few cans a fava beans.
3. The reason that 27 billion animals are killed for food in the US is because we eat them- yes that is a very astute observation! But, i think we can agree, that most of us wouldn't want to live in the horrendous conditions in which bred farmed animals live. They are often cramped in small quarters and denyed anything that is natural to them...Sounds like living in New York City or Tokyo.
The non-meat food choices out there are tremendous, the benefit to the environment is awesome, and the impact on your health is undeniable...it is no wonder that every year there are a million more vegetarians! Doctors are actively recommending this as the diet for the new millenia!Yes! Give me tofu...then shoot me. 😛
07 Jun 04
Originally posted by elvendreamgirlthis is very true sarah.
Perhaps if people were responsible for raising and killing, dressing and cooking their own animals there might be more respect for animals, or perhaps more vegetarians.
people very rarely do their own dirty work, so they don't get to see just how dirty it really is.
"If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian. We feel better about ourselves and better about the animals, knowing we're not contributing to their pain."
Linda and Paul McCartney
most people really don't want to deal with the cruelty and the killing: people are not naturally cruel. i knew a farmer who raised cattle very kindly, who freely admitted that he couldn't bring it upon himself to do the actual killing.
so we pay' others to do it out of sight and therefore out of mind.
but everytime one of these discussions get underway, it opens the eyes of even the blindest denier a little bit more.
in friendship,
prad
07 Jun 04
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Originally posted by shavixmirthanks for your effort at any rate, mr notomato 😀
I've spent hours trying to think of a good come-back to Pradtf's post. This is the best I could come up with:
"You are what you eat, and I sure as hell ain't no tomato."
but you didn't have to - you did a great job in the other thread when you brought our friend to face "the feminist communistic women's day gathering ..." i guess by putting him in that situation you made him more vulnerable and therefore more valuable? 😉
i agree with you that you are indeed what you eat, so it is an idea to recall George Bernard Shaw's words that "we ourselves are the living graves of murdered beasts".
i will answer your questions regarding free range later on when i have more time (unless someone else does). thank you for asking about it.
in friendship,
prad
07 Jun 04
Originally posted by StarValleyWyWhat about the meat-eaters who are happy to tuck in, until they actually see a chicken being killed or a pig or whatever, and can't bear to watch. But then they go back to their bacon sarnie eventually?
Me too. With the full realization that a pig died so that I could eat. It died humanely... usually with a sledge-hammer blow between the eyes. But it died.
I know this and accept it. Which drives the animal worship crowd nuts.
That is why I say I am a predator.
I know how "bacon" is made. From the blow of death to the cutting, wrapping, ship ...[text shortened]... ed the issue must face.
Decide. "A friend to all".
Or a human being. With all the worts.