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@wildgrass said
Me, I say the USA should totally cover support of destitute people in this country.

Don't forget, you also say the USA should use tax dollars to cover support of extremely wealthy millionaires and billionaires who want to do things like build stadiums with their names on them. Those people have a lot more expensive taste than the destitute..
You hate success, you hate the rich, you sit in their stadiums, visit their aquariums, ask them to hire and TRAIN your children. You are thus weird, or a hypocrite, or something. The tax laws free up money for them to reinvest and provide more jobs.
I for one do not care if they own a yacht. Why do you? Oh, you want them to sell the yacht and dole out the money to people who are Not rich, .....socialism ? Since you work for rich people, are you going to stop, since you are so angry! Good. Stop and get rich yourself. You can do it unless Biden regulates you. Takes your freedoms away. He makes me so mad. Rich makes you mad, Biden makes me mad, We’re friends!

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@wildgrass said
LOL you say the government should use tax revenue to create jobs and expand society while calling others' Marxist? That's rich.
No. I don’t say that. And the ‘jobs’ that you say are created by govt are a WHOLE lot different than those of the private sector. The sky is the limit in the private sector, govt jobs are limited, very controlled, no way to ‘grow’. Grow,like Bezos grew!

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@averagejoe1 said
You hate success, you hate the rich, you sit in their stadiums, visit their aquariums, ask them to hire and TRAIN your children. You are thus weird, or a hypocrite, or something. The tax laws free up money for them to reinvest and provide more jobs.
I for one do not care if they own a yacht. Why do you? Oh, you want them to sell the yacht and dole out the money ...[text shortened]... your freedoms away. He makes me so mad. Rich makes you mad, Biden makes me mad, We’re friends!
First off, genius, why don't
you bother to check on who builds
all those STADIUMS and AQUARIUMS....
The TAXPAYERS BUILD 'EM.
I don't mind if someone owns a yacht,
I just don't to be the one paying for it.
Do you believe TRUMP , et al should pay their
share?........For you to make this statement
PROVES YOU DID NOT READ THE LINK.
The theory behind 'supply side' economics has been proven wrong many
many times. The rich folks keep selling it though because tax cuts go along with it. Most modern economists tend to be Keynesians.. 😛

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@jimm619 said
First off, genius, why don't
you bother to check on who builds
all those STADIUMS and AQUARIUMS....
The TAXPAYERS BUILD 'EM.
I don't mind if someone owns a yacht,
I just don't to be the one paying for it.
Do you believe TRUMP , et al should pay their
share?........For you to make this statement
PROVES YOU DID NOT READ THE LINK.
The theory behind 'supply side' econ ...[text shortened]... elling it though because tax cuts go along with it. Most modern economists tend to be Keynesians.. 😛
I generally don’t read your link/post, or post/link, but need to tell you Bernie Marcus gave $300M to the city of Atlanta to build the 2nd largest aquarium in the world. No govt involvement. Yeah.....Dam rich. Tell us, what does your savior George Soros do with his billions. Or don’t tell us?
If govt/taxpayers pay for stadiums, why are they named after corporations? Tell us that when you brag about Soros money.

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@kevcvs57 said
What a rambling little capitalist piglet you are today, are you ok?
So do you agree with AJs idea of only the landed gentry getting to vote, even though he gave no justification for it whatsoever.
When you guys are up against a wall, you lie. I clearly stated that it was said in jest. You lie. It’s ok though....it is impossible to make me look bad.🧘🏼‍♂️

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@soothfast said
Aside from just plain cruel, you're penny wise and pound foolish. The cost of social welfare programs for the unemployed and indigent are but a drop in the bucket compared to the money wasted on a bloated military, corporate welfare, and huge tax cut schemes for the lucky few who are rolling in tens, hundreds, or thousands of millions of dollars. And then there are the hu ...[text shortened]... II's court against the champions of democracy. You're just perfect for today's Christo-fascist GOP.
Short answer....govt covers welfare of truly indigent, about 40M of them. Shut down all other free stuff. All of it. Everyone go to work. The country takes off. The losers? Let them lose.
Oh and leave military alone. You know, strongest country in history, such as that?..? We will need it when China tries to claim the moon. I bet the flowerdy sweet Netherlands countries will LOVE us when when stop China.

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@averagejoe1 said
Grow,like Bezos grew!
Over the broken backs of the gig economy proletariat, and at great cost to the world in general?
I suppose that for members of the Church of Mammon, like you and Bezos, that is indeed holy behaviour. Me, I prefer to act like a Christian and cooperate with my fellow men.

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@averagejoe1 said
I speak of Presidential elections. You libs don't want an electoral college, which of course would mean 51% would prevail.
So, again, do you think that 51% of the American population should prevail in a presidential election??
Yes definitely, you obviously think that the 49% should prevail but then the demographics of democracy aren’t actually in your favour are they joe. Hence the attempted coup and voting restrictions etc.

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@shallow-blue said
Over the broken backs of the gig economy proletariat, and at great cost to the world in general?
I suppose that for members of the Church of Mammon, like you and Bezos, that is indeed holy behaviour. Me, I prefer to act like a Christian and cooperate with my fellow men.
Everyone , every one, of your fellow men in the USA, and anywhere else, have enjoyed and utilized the services of Amazon. I think I will order a tube of toothpaste to be delivered to my door in the morning. If you or any one of them have used amazon,, which they have, then you are a hypocrite. I know, I know, I hate it too.

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@kevcvs57 said
Yes definitely, you obviously think that the 49% should prevail but then the demographics of democracy aren’t actually in your favour are they joe. Hence the attempted coup and voting restrictions etc.
Kev,,,,,,,lib-changing of the facts? You say that I 'obviously' think 49% should prevail. So you surmise that I am saying that if 51% should NOT prevail, that 49% SHOULD prevail ?? You are in in the idiot jimmmmm's territory. You guys are truly unraveling, even the most-studious Marauder. I think his paralegals couldn't take all the research any more, and he is trying to do it all himself!!!
No, 'obviously', as I have stated that a majority of 60% should prevail , I was saying, by the 51% percent reference, that a mob should not rule. It ain't that hard, Kev. You just have to knee jerk when you see something that triggers pet peeves in your mind.

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@shallow-blue said
Over the broken backs of the gig economy proletariat, and at great cost to the world in general?
I suppose that for members of the Church of Mammon, like you and Bezos, that is indeed holy behaviour. Me, I prefer to act like a Christian and cooperate with my fellow men.
I, AvJoe , stated above that in the private sector, the sky is the limit !!! Positive vibes, all that...go for it!! Capped if off "Grow, like Bezos grew!" Shallow blue does not get the nuance of anything . Shallow, to get wealthy, be successful, like Bezos as an example, one must grow. So, use his success as a goal, within your means, of course. Hope this helps. Get ready to invest, by the way.

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@averagejoe1 said
I generally don’t read your link/post, or post/link, but need to tell you Bernie Marcus gave $300M to the city of Atlanta to build the 2nd largest aquarium in the world. No govt involvement. Yeah.....Dam rich. Tell us, what does your savior George Soros do with his billions. Or don’t tell us?
If govt/taxpayers pay for stadiums, why are they named after corporations? Tell us that when you brag about Soros money.
How did SOROS get into this?....Oh yes....your usual 'WHATABOUTISM'
The teams are paid a fee to brand their stadiums for corporations.
Funny that you should know of a single
exception to a long standing rule...
.Can you point out a few stadiums that were privately built?
I don't blame you for ignoring me,
as when it comes to verbal jousting with me you come completely unarmed which,
not coincidentally is the reason you ALWAYS lose.
https://www.quora.com/Who-pays-for-the-construction-of-sports-stadiums?share=1
https://voiceofsandiego.org/2011/09/12/fact-check-who-pays-for-nfl-stadiums/
https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/national/aquaculture/aquaculture-funding-opportunities-and-grants
AS I SAID, LARGELY GOVERNMENT FUNDED 😛
As for George Soros?
He gives away plenty
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/17/philanthropist-george-soros-donates-most-of-his-net-worth-to-charity.html
https://davidhlawsonfoundation.org/charity/how-much-has-george-soros-given-to-charity.html
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By the way, just so you know, MASCUS was a lefty 😆
POLITICS:
Marcus and his wife Judith support Democratic causes and candidates and give heavily to organizations such as the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and left-leaning “super PACs,” political action committees that are not allowed to contribute to candidates or coordinate their work with them. In June, the couple gave $1 million to both the House Majority PAC and Senate Majority PAC, organizations focused on building and maintaining Democratic majorities in the House and Senate. In 2019, The late Marcus had donated to presidential candidate Joe Biden’s campaign and to Nancy Pelosi, among others. In the past, Marcus has supported California governor Gavin Newsom and backed anti-gun initiatives.
https://www.worth.com/the-top-10-billionaire-political-donors-of-2019-so-far/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`On top of the facts again, huh Jo?

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@averagejoe1 said
Everyone , every one, of your fellow men in the USA, and anywhere else, have enjoyed and utilized the services of Amazon.
I have no fellow men in the USA, and I've never bought a thing from Amazon.

We're not all as venial as you colonials are.

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@shallow-blue said
I have no fellow men in the USA, and I've never bought a thing from Amazon.

We're not all as venial as you colonials are.
Someone you love has used Amazon. It is magic, they have done it. Are you going to make them ashamed, to contribute to his riches? Should he be shut down, bankrupted? What should be done about the concept of allowing citizens to become rich? How can we fix them, muzzle them, put a rein on 'em? (and at the same time, getting their goods and services...a real brainteaser.)
Say 'I love being a lib', 15 times....I bet you cant do it!! Or better yet, do it while you are picking some guy's pocket at the airport!

* Dont get your 'venial'. Forgiving, or pardonable, or forgivable? Huh? You are not as forgiving as we are. Of what?

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@averagejoe1 said
Someone you love has used Amazon. It is magic, they have done it. Are you going to make them ashamed, to contribute to his riches? Should he be shut down, bankrupted? What should be done about the concept of allowing citizens to become rich? How can we fix them, muzzle them, put a rein on 'em? (and at the same time, getting their goods and services...a real brainteas ...[text shortened]... ial'. Forgiving, or pardonable, or forgivable? Huh? You are not as forgiving as we are. Of what?
He hasn't the skill OR the gonads. 😛

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