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Originally posted by Conrau K
I don't know how many times I have said this. I'll put in capiral letters so that it might have an impact. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH OTHER PEOPLE MAKING MISTAKES WITH THEIR GRAMMAR, I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE ODD SPELLING ERROR. My complaint was at people who cannot articulate their thoughts, who purposefully diminish their vocabulary, who cannot communicate thei ...[text shortened]... he word "and" is correct. You just can't acknowledge that fact that you were wrong.
What you said about "and" is that the grammar is correct if the meaning can be understood. Teenagers who use 733+5p34k understand each other just fine.

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Let us listen to a wise man, a chessplayer, Eric Schiller:

http://www.ericschiller.com/ling/papers/myths/myth_idx.htm

http://www.ericschiller.com/ling/papers/how_to_annoy_your_english_teacher!.htm
Schiller's books are full of errors, and much of what he gets correct was plagiarized by one of his pupils. His website is worse.

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Originally posted by ivangrice
Read slowly (you probably do anyway, with your lips moving and your face screwed up in intense concentration). Does your sentence (that's sentence) make sense?
So what? its an error, it can still be understood. All I did was omit a word, that tends to happen over long posts when I accidentally hit the delete button without retyping the word or yes, as I make a mistake (gasp!). Such an error has never happened in a single essay I've written.

It's still beside the point. I wasn't commenting on ommissions in posts, but on a generica lapse in literature.

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Originally posted by ivangrice
Hmmm. Is what changing for the worse? It doesn't grammatically make sense.

You are complaining that someone hasn't acknowledged he was wrong. How do you spell 'grammar' again?
I ommitted the word "language". Thankyou for pointing that out. Now go back to sleep.

'Grammar' is still spelt 'grammer' is my text book. As I have said before, we live in different countries. It is certainly lucky that I wasn't commenting on spelling errors and idioms and dialects in this thread, then what you have said so far might be relevant.

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Originally posted by ivangrice
Spot the grammatical error here. Clue: remember you started the sentence with 'While'.

You are a fool.
This is not an error. It would be in formal writing but this site does allow for informal language - except "spamming, flaming or excessively offensive language".

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
What you said about "and" is that the grammar is correct if the meaning can be understood. Teenagers who use 733+5p34k understand each other just fine.
That is true. However, teenagers language limits what can be understood. Try articulating, in digits only, the meaning of the word "evolution" 😛. While a teenagers language is economical and saves money per text message, formal language should not be curtailed as a result.

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Originally posted by Conrau K
I ommitted the word "language". Thankyou for pointing that out. Now go back to sleep.

'Grammar' is still spelt 'grammer' is my text book. As I have said before, we live in different countries. It is certainly lucky that I wasn't commenting on spelling errors and idioms and dialects in this thread, then what you have said so far might be relevant.
Oh, for crying out loud. It's 'grammar' in *every* text book ever written. Please do admit when you are wrong. You might find that people respect your views more when you're not obstinately defending an untenable position.

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Originally posted by Conrau K
This is not an error. It would be in formal writing but this site does allow for informal language - except "spamming, flaming or excessively offensive language".
You genuinely don't have a clue what grammatical error I was referring to, do you?

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Originally posted by Conrau K
I ommitted the word "language". Thankyou for pointing that out. Now go back to sleep.

'Grammar' is still spelt 'grammer' is my text book. As I have said before, we live in different countries. It is certainly lucky that I wasn't commenting on spelling errors and idioms and dialects in this thread, then what you have said so far might be relevant.
Try doing a Google search for "grammer" and see what you come up with. No one uses that spelling except you. What are the title and author of your textbook?

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for Conrau K

http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ideas/archives/2005/10/learning_englis.html

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Originally posted by ivangrice
Oh, for crying out loud. It's 'grammar' in *every* text book ever written. Please do admit when you are wrong. You might find that people respect your views more when you're not obstinately defending an untenable position.
It wouldn't matter if I were wrong. It wasn't commenting on erroneous spelling but just for your information, my text book says "grammer".

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Originally posted by ivangrice
You genuinely don't have a clue what grammatical error I was referring to, do you?
Apparently the error was using the word "while" at the beginning of the sentance - you hinted so yourself. This is not an error.

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Originally posted by FrenchQueen
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http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ideas/archives/2005/10/learning_englis.html
"Grammar" seems to be the conventional word. But I don't really care about such an insignificant difference between the two spellings.

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Originally posted by Conrau K
Apparently the error was using the word "while" at the beginning of the sentance - you hinted so yourself. This is not an error.
I think his point was that there should have been two clauses in your sentence. Your sentence was unfinished.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/While

PS: I have never seen the word grammar spelt "grammer"; actually my 13-year-old pupils sometimes use that spelling but then again they ain't talkin' propa.

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Originally posted by Conrau K
It wouldn't matter if I were wrong. It wasn't commenting on erroneous spelling but just for your information, my text book says "grammer".
But only a few posts ago you were bitching about AThousandYoung not admitting he was wrong - I quote: "Also, what I said about the word "and" is correct. You just can't acknowledge that fact that you were wrong."

If your text book states 'grammer' no wonder your English is so poor! You're a victim of poor schooling. As, perhaps, are the young people today of whom you're so dismissive. Perhaps you have more in common with them than you thought?

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