Originally posted by Rajk999Very good. You get a rec.
I thought this thread was dead.
Anyway .. The whole purpose of the capitalist system was to improve material quality of life, by forcing resources into production that was the most profitable. That system (if you claim to be objective) you must admit has succeeded beyond the wildest imagination of any 19th C theorist, while other systems have failed mise ...[text shortened]... itilist state are made by all interested parties and not only by the profiteering enterprises.
I would only add that when we are all dumped into the inevitable global "commune" that is the fruition of communism, socialism, anarchy, animals are peopleism, earth is godism, abortion is everythingism, gaydom is all that mattersism and greenisms of all sorts... what will there be to live for? Being just like everyone else in the commune? Gee. That sure sounds "diverse" doesn't it?
You gotta' love "extremism" that denies human nature (greed) in favor of a global cess pool of uniformity.
Originally posted by TomPEntropy
Lets get to the bones of it; we can all see the world around us: it is controlled by institutional structures larger than us, which we do not feel empowered to change in most cases for most people. Some kind of Cultural/ Social/ Mob mentality causes us as individuals to seek to propagate these structures by means of our productive lives - be they Governments, B ...[text shortened]... because we are all ultimately selfish and corrupt line? All thoughts welcome on this subject...
I think that that the root of evil (or good) over the ages (and today) results from the choices made by every person on earth exercising free will.
Perhaps it is the 'butterfly effect' of all the choices ever made by mankind during man's existence on earth.
So where does evil start? Does it start in the heart as desire, then move into the mind where it forms into an expression of thought or thoughts, then finally manifests in a tangible act or other expression which has an effect on at least one other human being?
Does this mean evil can be stopped as long as the volition to release it upon ourselves is checked?
If so, then to only desire and think on evil should not produce any evil at that stage in its formulation. But only upon fluttering the butterfly's wings can that typhoon be felt halfway around the world.
“It has been said something as small as the flutter of a butterfly's wing can ultimately cause a typhoon halfway around the world.” - Chaos Theory
Originally posted by steve645Greed can be a great motivator, it is an excessive desire and excessive anything is not good, but the question is excessive by who's standard. There are sports people that have an excessive desire to run faster, jump further, etc....they're held up as role models.
Greed Both Corporate and Personal
As long as there is no force, threats of force and fraud involved, greed is not evil.
Originally posted by WajomaWhat you have been describing is not greed. It seems to me you are describing a desire to better oneself. I don't think anyone would argue that's a bad thing.
Greed can be a great motivator, it is an excessive desire and excessive anything is not good, but the question is excessive by who's standard. There are sports people that have an excessive desire to run faster, jump further, etc....they're held up as role models.
As long as there is no force, threats of force and fraud involved, greed is not evil.
Greed is the accumulation of more stuff than you could possibly need, usually to the detriment of others. In the general case, I personally, don't think it is inherently "evil" but am certain that it leads to destruction one way or another.